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Yesterday evening I attended a Partylite, Tealight Candle Party. Let me tell you, I was definitely not capable of just chilling with my mouth closed and my wallet wide open. Essentially, I believe that everyone who attends these parties have identical thoughts running through their heads. Let me share my take..
First, I attended this party with Kimberly, who was invited by one of my relatives. She asked me to come along; as I did gladly. If nothing else, I could keep her company and try and protect her from the swarm of consultants that potentially could attack her and steal her money! During our drive to the location this party was going down at, I expressed my opinion on direct selling companies and consultants.
If you were to divide the people attending one of these parties into two groups, you would have: (1) single group representing the individual(s) who will benefit and make revenue from the event (2) larger group of individuals representing the cash-cow, the mechanism in which these direct selling companies rely on.
Breaking down the cash-cow, you have specific persons in which group 1 invited to the event. Group 2 typically consists of family members, friends, co-workers, associates and the acquintances you meet through the previously mentioned types of individuals. This group loves to spend money, kidding. The poor souls of these people are resting, unbalanced, drifting between the thoughts of, “I really don’t want this garbage.” and “I am only buying this crap to make group 1 happy.. I can’t be the only person here not buying something.”
These thoughts usually lead to the effect and willingness to purchase an item that you initially had absolutely no intentions on purchasing, yet you did because you were afraid of someone getting upset or looking at you funny because you didn’t buy anything. Granted, all things known, group 1 is the only set of individuls who benefit. Everyone else is at the mercy of their greed and want. The more group 2 buys, the more group 1 benefits!
If you were to consider who makes up group 1 you have two people. Your host(ess) who is the individual “throwing” the party for “you to buy shit” and the consultant who is making money off commissions based on overall sales at said party priorly disclosed.
Personally, I think these programs are ridiculous. It is a great idea, pressure and mockery, play people as fools and persuade them to buy stuff; it really works. It really does! I ended up leaving and bought a candle holder I surely didn’t require, nor wanted, but it was the “nicest” I thought and most suitable for my application.
Application, who considers candle decorating an application, leave it to me, a geek, to come up with that one.
This is my opinion, but I cannot stand direct selling organizations. Blyth the company that owns Partylite makes a fortune off Tealight Partylite candles at parties, but you can buy identical candles and similar products through their online retailers and skip the middle man. Can you say cheaper-prices?
I’m done, just my opinion –
Feb 21
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426 Comments I don’t like Partylite Candle Company
Donna
February 23rd, 2007 at 6:40 pm
1I agree with your ‘take’ 100%. In order not to offend your friend who is ‘hostess’ of the party, you order generally the least expensive pos they offer, take it home, stash it somewhere, and hopefully remember where it is when you need a last minute gift for someone. Few of us are brave enough to say, “No thanks, I don’t want any of this.”, but most are thinking, “I saw this at Target last week for a fraction of the price.” Best thing to do is find an excuse for not being able to attend these ‘parties’.
Stacy
March 1st, 2007 at 9:22 am
2WOW! I had no idea that there are some people out there that HATE direct sales! Let me tell you, as a consultant for another direct sales company, being employed and setting my own hours with children is a blessing. I am “NO PRESSURE” Sales person, infact hundreds of these companies have consultants that tell you about the product the “facts” and “myths” when the company began, etc.. they are all truths. You as the consumer have a choice to come to the party and spend time with family and friends or stay home.. Its your choice the companies didnt’ pull you out the door and make you show up.. You also have a choice on if you want to open the catalogs or not, if you don’t then DON’T its easy KEEP IT CLOSED!! You also have a choice to pull out your pocket book to purchase something or not.. Don’t think that your family member or friend will be “pissed” because you didn’t buy anything.. I see it all the time when someone shows up just get out of the house and hang out with the girls and they leave with purchasing NOTHING!!.
So I am sorry that you feel that you were taken advantage of by someone doing their job when you had a choice to show up and buy something or stay home and buy NOTHING!! The ball is in your court not ours!
Have a FABLOUS DAY:)
DAWN
March 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
3Partylite is about having fun with friends and family and educating you on their products as well as how to care for their products. There is absolutely no pressure to buy anything and for that matter, most consultants give away product for free at the shows because we want you to have fun and experience what Partylite has to offer! The hostess of the show receives approximately $200.00 in free product and everyone has a great time. I agree with Stacy. You can not judge a company of which you do not have any knowledge about. The “Partylite” company has the best candles on the market today because of their high quality products. You get what you pay for. If you want to buy cheap candles, go right ahead. Cheaper candles contain led and other chemicals that are harmful for you to breathe and this also gets into your clothes, carpets, etc. (Burn a cheap candle next to the bathroom mirror. Then, wipe the mirror where the cheap candle burned. You will see lots of black soot!) I have two children and I care about our wellness. Partylite candles are tested over and over to ensure top of the line quality!!!! Partylite uses the finest wax that is perfectly harmless EVEN if accidently eaten and the wax itself does not get to a temperature that could burn you if spilled. The same goes for all their products. Partylite candles are burnt in the White House! These products are of very high quality and that is why they cost more! The same goes for most everything else in the world! If you want the best, then you’ll pay for the best. If you want to settle for poor quality because it’s cheaper, then that’s your right. Partylite stands behind its product! 100% satisfaction guarenteed! …and Parytlite has donated over $400.000 toward cancer research in just the past two months as well as millions of dollors over the past several year. So before you bash a company, please be more educated about that company!
Margaret
March 9th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
4Justin, what state are you in? I would absolutely love to do a show for you. Let me be your party planner and you will recieve free partylite, half price items and hostess specials! We would have fun with your friends, family, co-workers and associates. They will thank you for a relaxing evening out of the house and for the free gifts they recieve at the show for bringing a friend along. Just email me and we will get together. Thank you, Margaret/partylite consultant in SWFL.
Margaret
March 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
5my email is tututango123@aol.com
Dawn
March 11th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
6Interesting. I have attended many partylite parties. If I do not want something I just dont but anything. If I need candles or see a holder I like I buy. When I have hosted a party I never expect my guests to feel like they have to purchase something. If thats the case then they dont have to come.
Donnell Thomas
March 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
7It’s sad that one bad experience of a direct marketing/consultant run- in can effect your whole view of the business. But I can’t say that I blame you, no one likes a pushy sales rep.
I went to a partylite candle get together this past weekend, and I loved every aspect of it. Hanging out with girls, looking at all the pretties and learning about the product. Infact I loved it so much that I am actually thinking about becoming a consultant. I never once felt pressured into buying anything, it was an excellent time, I could look and touch and smell all I want, she even gave me a tea light candle to take home and test out for myself…That is what I call a fabulous consultant!
PartyLite Candles ROCK!
March 14th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
8So maybe I missed it somewhere but did Justin ever state why he dislike PartyLite products in itself? Hmmm…I didn’t think so. There are some items that you can get away with in purchasing the generic brand but candles are not the same in every brand. I love PartyLite’s products (not just the candles) b/c they have high quality products. I’ll stand by Margaret and Dawn. There is no comparison in cheap quality vs. high quality. Oh and did I forget to mention that I am a proud PartyLite Consultant in Texas? Light on…
Justin
March 15th, 2007 at 8:51 am
9I am not a fan of PartyLite Candles because they have no scent. I’m sure this is an opinion and everyone else thinks I am crazy but I have burned their candles before and smelled nothing.
The scent is in the box, but not in the air, what the hell. And everytime something has been ordered to come my direction, the order is wrong. And instead of PartyLite doing the leg work, especially their consultant(s) responsible, for finding my lost product(s) and getting them to me, I end up doing the work myself.
The customer service stinks, the candles don’t stink and I just don’t like that overall; I’m biased because of it.
My nickel, I’ll wait on change.
Mrs. Pickles
March 15th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
10I, too, am a Partylite consultant. I stand behind my products and do my best to provide for all of my
customer’s needs. Without customer & hostess loyality, I do not have a viable business.
I always bring tealights and a jar candle from a well known mall competitor to demonstrate how the candles
do not totally consume themselves and do not burn clean
like Partylite candles do. I also make sure my customers
know that the prices are comprable, if not less in some instances.
I invite my customers to give me feedback about the presentation and products. I also remind them that we
stand by our products, so if something is less than perfect or the scent is not as they expected it to be, I will glaldly replace it. I do not know of any consulatants who would not go the extra mile to keep a customer happy.
Patti
March 15th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
11If the box is scented and not the candles, then why do consultants pass around a plastic box with multiple candles in it that all smell differently? Do you think that we have special scented candles for our boxes? Get a life, you just don’t want other guys knowing you are a “wax-a-holic”. Nobody forced you to buy anything, or even attend the party, you did that on your own.
Justin
March 16th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
12@Patti:
I didn’t suggest that there was some mysterious magic box. You read my entire comment out of context. Before you decide to instruct someone to get a life, I would definitely suggest that you maintain a stable thought process and read things more clearly.
First, I simply suggested that the candles do not appear to have a scent. I didn’t trash the partylite candle company in general as a company, simply used them as an example towards my OPINION on direct-sales companies.
You obviously have no understanding for an opinion. However, your trashy input into this discussion has its place. I’ll leave it simply because I want a reminder of how idiotic people can be.
Crystal
March 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am
13Can I send you some candles that truly smell? No strings attached.
Tammy
March 21st, 2007 at 7:39 pm
14Hey Justine, Im sorry you had such a horriable time at the PartyLite Candle party you attended. I am a consultant and I hope that I NEVER make any one feel the way you did. I ahve to say that I try and make my parties a non-pressure event. If its not for someone, no prob. You DONT have to buy. I have heard that some consultants are big on recruiting, and I bet you felt this way. Sorry for that. Basically PartyLite has an awesome product and stands by it. If you don’t like something, they’ll stand by it, even if you really don’t like it. Good luck in your pursuit of happiness
Andrea
March 21st, 2007 at 11:18 pm
15It is a good product, but it can be a pressured feeling at the parties. The reason the hostess can get $200 for free candles is because her guests are basically providing that, not the company. That’s the part I am not crazy about. HIGH prices. So the hostess gets paid, and the consultant…. from ME.
Kristen
March 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 pm
16I too am a PL consultant. I must say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. After reading the original post and the comments… I have a few things to say.
Direct sales companies are just like any other company. Person has party, people buy stuff, person throwing party is rewarded. How is it any different to shop at a home show? When you walk into a store you are bombarded by marketing and advertising plots to try and get you to spend as much money as possible. most of the tactics we do not even recognize without thinking about it harder. but they work! Our entire economy is based on goods and services. Buying and Selling. It makes the world go ’round. No one DRAGS you to a party… they invite you… you come on your own choice. You purchase on your own choice. Yes, we help out our hostesses by purchasing product at their show but what difference is that then going to the local deli over subway? supporting people you believe in. That goes for hostesses AND consultants!
Every consultant is different. And if you attended a show with a pushy consultant that is very unfortunate but that is not how the majority of us run our businesses. We give out endless free product, discounts, GC’s … it never ends.
When is the last time you walked into WalMart, Target (you pick the store) and bought only the things on your list and let the advertising, marketing have NO effect on you? When is the last time you purchased a candy bar from a school child just because they asked? We are approached all the time about making donations, helping , spending money to help this economy.
Also, it is not as if we sit at the party and yell out … “congratulations Patty ! Angela just made a $40 purchase!!!” It is noones business who orders or not. The only one who knows is the hostess and the consultant. Perhaps if you dont feel that you are in the position or have the need for the product you can politely decline the invitation or just come to support your hostess friend in something she is working for.
Kim
March 23rd, 2007 at 6:34 pm
17Justin-
I just hosted a Partylite party last weekend!
I thought it was a very nice time. I got to have family over, they got to meet friends of mine, and everyone got to learn more about candles, and how to care for partylite candles.
My consultant gave out numerous prizes and everyone who came had a wonderful time. There was no pressure to buy anything.
I am sorry that you feel this way- and that you have to spread how you feel around. I invited most of my friends, and only a few showed up. It is negative comments out there like yours that are making people not go to support their friends. Never at any time is anyone obligated to buy anything! The host/ess just wants people to show up at the party. They want it to be an enjoyable experience, a chance for family and friends to get together. Basically an excuse to have people over and enjoy their company.
I wish that more of my friends had shown up, they would have had a nice time. We laughed, drank wine, and played games to win candles.
patty
March 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
18I don’t necessarily disagree with your opinion, but am not sure why you direct it only at party-lite. After all, tupperware, pampered chef, home interiors, premiere jewelry, etc also operate the same way as a party-lite party.
Cindy
March 27th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
19I’ts to bad that poeple feel the need to bad mouth home businesses. I wonder how they feel about corparate America, and how most employers treat their employees. Do they all give out free product to them, do they all let you earn free trips, what about a pay raise when you need it. I work for corparate America and I can tell you the answer is NO! I also am a Partylite consultant and I would rather work for Partylite and sent my ouw hours, give my self a raise when I need it and share all the wounderfull things that Partlite has to offer, than sell myself to the big employers who don’t care. When I do my parties, everyone leaves with a free product and a no hassle shopping trip. I bring the store to them. Partylite is no differant than shopping for a new car. Some people like fords, some dodges, some v w’s.
Vicki
March 27th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
20PartyLite is the top of the line candles and accessories. You will never be able to find a better quality of candles than PartyLite. The shows are simply about being able to get together with your family and friends for a fun night. I am a PartyLite Consultant/Team Leader and I love my job and what I do. I love the fexibility of being able to be home with my family and work when I want to work and make money at it. If you look at the Colonial Candle website, they sell votives for $1.76 each. That’s over $20 a dozen. PL is $12.00 a dozen, so you not going to save any money by buying from someone else. If you don’t like the comforts from shopping from home, then don’t go to the shows when invited and you will not feel pressured to buy anything.
Vicki
March 27th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
21By the way Justin…I’m from SC if your close by…I’ll do a show for you. Too bad you got a bad consultant. I can tell you from experience, I have met and trained some awesome consultants. Don’t let one bad apple spoil the whole bucket.
Candle Mommy
March 28th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
22I disagree. I have been hosting and attending Partylite parties for 14 years and I’ve always received good value from the consultants and hostesses. Sure there is some pressure, but you get the same at any store!! If you can’t handle it then you should stay home and do all your shopping online.
As far as someone benefiting because someone else purchased things from them (and the more the better), that’s called capitalism and it’s what built our country.
I like to multitask – and I can do it at a Plite party – like buying some high quality candles and accessories, catching up with my friends, and relaxing by getting away from the routine. Duh!
Black market Plite candles? You can buy anything online, but are you sure you’re going to get the good stuff? If you’re lucky you might but chances are you’re buying some dime store tea light and not a Plite candle. There is a difference, and anyone whose burned Plites can tell you. If you want the good stuff, you have to pay a little extra. That’s the way it is.
Amy
March 28th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
23Justin!
Check out “The Secret” it’s out on dvd and it’s a book.
Let us know what you think!
Dee
April 2nd, 2007 at 7:43 pm
24I have both hosted and been a consultant not only for PartyLite but for other Home Demo Companies as well. My perspective is that there are great benefits that come with these companies – specifically for women:
1) Mom’s have the opportunity to get out and visit with friends – have ‘adult time’ without interuption
2) Mom’s in families that need some extra income have the opportunity to still be with their children during the day (which is invaluable) and contribute to the family finances by night
3) It is a relaxed shopping experience – you don’t have to run from store to store.
4) My husband loves candles and used to burn them all the time before we got married. Once we married and he was introduced to PartyLite candles – he was amazed at the VALUE of them. Yes, I say value. The candles – if cared for properly, will burn completely – Walmart, Target even Peir One candles burn down a center column and not the entire candle – dollar for dollar they are a much better deal. Many home demo companies do have fantastic quality, and it is cheaper than going to the store.
5) As for customer service – that is individual – I have, sadly, met consultants that aren’t great, either they are too busy with life, aren’t trained well or just don’t care – but look at ANY business. Can you honestly say you have never had a bad experience anywhere else, say – at a restaraunt? It happens – people are people.
6) Lastly for the lack of scent. How long did you wait before burning your candles? If you wait a year or so, and leave the candle stored in a warm area and not protected, that will disapate some of the scent. If you did have it stored in the proper place and burned in within a reasonable amount of time and others smell it – I’d recommend that you check out if you have a pinched nerve in your neck, that could cause the lack of ability to smell.
Obviously many people don’t agree with your thoughts on Home Demos – but I suspect you are fairly young without a spouse who would appreciate getting out, getting extra cash or relaxing in a hot bath with PartyLite Candles burning and a glass of wine.
Have a great day.
Helen
April 4th, 2007 at 9:00 am
25I attended one of these “parties” recently (in the UK). I went along willingly with the intention of buying something if I liked the look of it, and not otherwise. Whilst I went as I was happy to go and to hear about the products and possibly buy something, the worst point was that we had to sit through a good hour of hearing about why we should become consultants (I am not even slightly interested in this!) I went expecting to look at candles I could buy, but instead was bombarded with information about becoming a constultant or hostess and worse still was shown mainly products that I would not be able to buy as a customer, only get if I became a hostess- something which I have no desire to do!
Safan
April 4th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
26I feel that people are intitled to their own opinion but I think that there will be more positive opinion on this site then negative one…
Mz Partylite Consultant Safan
Be a Do-er Not a Critic
A non-doer is very often a critic-that is, someone who sits back and watches doers, and then waxes philosophically about how the doers are doing. It’s easy to be a critic, but being a doer requires effort, risk, and change…
A direct sales consultant
April 4th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
27Justin if you hate direct sales why attend the party? NO ONE HELD A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE BEING HELD HOSTAGE UNTIL YOU MADE A PURCHASE. I purchase my candles, make-up and other products because I prefer the personal touch and the great prices. By the way don’t lump all direct sales consultants in the same boat. Most of us highly value our customers.
Susan
April 4th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
28Then grow a backbone and say “no”. Maybe you should go to some more of these ‘terrible’ parties if you have this much time on your hands to write such crazy bologna!
Christina
April 7th, 2007 at 11:39 am
29Justin,
It’s sad you had a bad experience. I have been to tons of parties and buy stuff if I want and if I don’t need anything I don’t buy it. The problem may have been with the consultant at the show you attended. All consultants are different and do their parties different. Most consulatnts really care about their customers as that is their main reason they are in business. Maybe you should find a new consultant. I wouldn’t hate all direct selling companies just because of a bad experience and you not liking a certain consultants demonstration. All consultants present their products in different ways. Maybe you can go to a lot of direct selling parties and make your decision based on experiencing tons of parties rather than just one. I personally love partylite products. You can find cheaper versions of what they have at say target. But it’s just like designer brands. Like Gucci and Dior and such. There are cheaper knockoffs of those but we all know buying the more expensive brand gets you higher quality products! And Partylite has higher quality products.
Direct selling companies are just like any other company. When you purchase something from a walmart someone is making money. When you purchase something from target someone is getting paid. How are direct selling companies different from any other company? They are just trying to make money off you. And they all do. That is life. Where do you work? You make money when people buy stuff right? If the company you work for weren’t making money off people buying their products or serices you wouldn’t have a job.
Rhi
April 9th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
30Sure, all DS companies are trying to make money. Isn’t that the point of any business?
Sorry you don’t think these candles don’t smell when burning. They have scent and color throught the candle, and nobody I have known who has burned these candles have complained. In fact, most only buy PartyLite once they have tried them.
These are the only candles burned in the White House & Buckingham Palace (sold under a sub-company Colonial Candles of Cape Cod). Plus their other products are high end, durable pieces.
And, you don’t have to go to the party. And if you decide to go, you don’t have to buy. Hell, I do a Pool, and for two dollars a square, you could win and get up to $100 worth of free stuff. For two dollars out of pocket, what they hay!!!
And for a DS company, if you decide to become a consultant, it is free. Not many others have that.
shannon
April 10th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
31I would like to get back to the fact that you could not smell the product. For me it was the fact that I could smell the candles and that the scent was present even when they were not lite that got me involved in PartyLite. Working as a nurse I know that there are several possible reasons that one would have problems smelling, one of which Dee stated. Though not knowing if you have any other issues smelling other things I can not comment on that. I do know being a PartyLite Counsultant I have some hostess and guest that smoke or smoked for a long time that have issues smelling some of the candles that the other hostess and guests do not. Also those that have Chronic Rhinitis (Chronic sinus infections) tend to have problems as well. If either of these is an issue for you, you may need to get more of the stronger scented PartyLite candles like the ScentPlus candles and try those.
Sandy
April 10th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
32Wow! Justin, you certainly know how to get a blog going!
I don’t really like going to the “parties” and do feel a certain amount of pressure, -I should buy something but nobody forces me to buy.
Justin, as you are a guy, you probably don’t understand that women like to have a reason to party, hang out with a bunch of friends at one time, socialize with other females only (no we don’t always bash the guys), and what do women like to do more than anything else?? SHOP, GOSSIP and SOCIALIZE! – maybe not in that order but close! That’s why the home party works so well FOR WOMEN. Men go out for beer and sports TV and usually no or few women. And yes, I like to socialize as well so yes, I do go to some of these parties just to get together with other women.
Why do we, women need a definite reason to have get-togethers/parties?
Cindy
April 12th, 2007 at 6:11 am
33I just did a party for men and women alike and all had fun. Some of the men bought items for their wives and girlfriends. As far as the smelling of the candles, try burning them in your bathroom as this is the smallest room in your house. Ask for a sample of the candles, I’m sure that if the consultant would like you for a customer, she or he would be more that willing to let you have a few to try. Also remember that PartyLite has a guarantee for 60 days for your satisfaction. These are the best candles that you can burn. Ask questions at these parties. Some one told me one time, that no question is a stupid question, ask all you can.
Lesa
April 12th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
34I’m a little confused. Of course companies like Partylite are out to make a profit, that’s why they are in business. But so are companies like Target – they have employees to pay, overheads to meet and share-holders to keep happy. Target does not sell it’s cheaper candles because they “like you and want to make you happy” they do it for a profit!
Yes, partylite candles are more expensive but they are also of superior quality. I have burnt many candles over the years and I’ve never been happier than with partylite candles. I can actually burn the candles in my good Liqueur glasses as they burn to nothing and leave no marks. NO OTHER CHEAP CANDLES DO THIS! Other candles ruin the container they are in with soot, unburned wax and high temperatures.
At the last partylite party I went to I came home with no less than 7 candles (for being brought as a friend, winning the “game”, the lucky draw prize, etc.) and in no way was I pressured to buy anything.
On another note I am about to host my own party. I always tell my friends to come along even if they don’t want to buy anything, I provide drinks and eats for everyone and most of the guests stay way after the consultatnt has gone. It is a “party” after all!!!!
Candle Mania
April 13th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
35Went to party this week, my first and my last. $39.99 for a single candle, how STUPID do they think the American consumer is? We go to Target, Marshalls and Hobby Lobby and buy the same candles at a fraction of this cost. If people have this much money to burn on candles (pun intended) they need to seriously look at the rest of the world where pennies would feed a family of four for a day. Patented wick, my ass. Open you minds people, and keep your wallets closed. Send the money you don’t need to people who are starving for food, not artificial scents and inflated egos.
Roberta
Marlene
April 14th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
36Hello there,
I’m really sorry that so many of you see direct selling as a money grabbing scheme. Partylite does no such thing. Partylite invites you to take avantage of the beautiful product that it is. Plus the Hostess receives 25-40% in FREE PRODUCT! Who wouldn’t want to take advantage of that. Partylite candles are of superior quality. They burn longer because of the parrafi wax they are made of and they contain NO LEAD! SO amny candles like dollar store candles or ones from micheals will cost you MORE because they do not burn as nearly as long as Partylite candles. So if you ever buy your candles from anywhere else other then Partylite you are wasting your money. If you are already burning candles why not save money and burn Partylite?
I happen to be a Partylite consultant and it’s been one of the greatest experienecs of my life. I am my own boss I can raise my child I make my own hours. So all of you out there working 9-5 5 days a week barely getting by cant complain. Now that you know that I ALWAYS make 25-38% of my sales plus 7% of who I sponsor, you cant complain. Oh and if I do very well in my sales they give me a FREE trip to exotic places in the world for my spouse and I. DONT DISS WHAT YOU HARDLY UNDERSTAND YOU LOOK STUPID!
Lesa
April 15th, 2007 at 2:33 am
37You are kidding aren’t you “Candle Mania”. You complain about the cost of the candles and yet YOU BOUGHT THEM! You say “open your minds people” and yet YOU PAID the money. WAKE UP!!! You go voluntarily to these parties, buy voluntarily and then choose to whinge about it later. Who should wake up? ( I possess the ability to think for myself and not pay money for things I do not want!)
My son has reactions to many chemicals in every day life and I find it fantastic to find a product that I can enjoy that doesn’t affect him. Other candles are full of lead and pollute as they burn! How is infiltrating my home with unnecessary toxins a smart consumer choice?
However if I was dissatisfied with the product I would have the strength of will to not buy it, instead of just whinging about it later. People seem to have nothing better to do than complain instead of voting with their shopping dollars. You bought the product. if you didn’t like it, why did you?
Kaz
April 15th, 2007 at 9:08 am
38Hi
I am an independent consultant in Scotland, and I happened to come across your blog.
Before I ‘understood’ Partylite, and about the selling process of the company, I would have said the same myself, I am not denying that fact. I used to think it was so over priced for the wax and accessories…
But
Now, having used the products for about 3-4 years loyally, and attended and hosted shows, I will NEVER look back.
I used to buy pillar candles for £2.99 thinking I was the winner, until the wick disappeared as it wasn’t centre, or the scent didn’t last throughout the burn -the complete opposited to Partylite branded products.
As a few members have said on here about spending money on the products, you don’t have to and nobody is making you, you chose to attend a Partylite Demonstration, so if you don’t like or agree with it, don’t go!! And I am saying that in a nice tone you understand.
You wouldn’t go into a Supermarket and buy blue cheese if you didn’t like it would you?
Partylite stand by their products 100% and it’s the best direct selling company I have come across (I have come across many and joined a couple over the last few years) and many of them (I believe) rip you off.
Partylite offer EVERYONE a good deal, us as Consultants, the host/hostesses and the guests (you always get something for free or at cut price) but it seems in this world that people expect to just get things for nothing.
You want quality, you usually have to pay for it.
If you don’t like the stuff, just don’t buy anything or attend!! We are NOT a company that pushes customers into anything (I am NOT a consultant that or pushes anyone into anything) and we are basically just showing you how to burn and look after your candles and accessories properly. That’s the whole point in a show.
And what’s wrong with a few of your friends round for a few drinks and treating ourselves (yes some things are more expensive than they are in the shops) but least we know we are getting good products and wax, and if we are not completely satisfied with the product, send it back and get your money back – simple (but usually you wouldn’t!! :) )
Partylite are fabbytastic and are an EXCELLENT company to work for (or with) trust me.
Now with the lingerie parties, now £20.00 for a pair of french knickers that really are the same as cheaper versions!!?? And you don’t get the same treatment or customer satisfaction, and you are still left penny-less, not only that, usually the products are made for the model like women in the catalogue, so whatever you buy, when you thought it would look hot after a few glasses of wine, actually looks stupid and is of poor quality…
Partylite are great, beautiful products, most of which are hand painted/crafted….definately worth it but that’s just my oppinion and I am a consultant after all!! :)
Cindy
April 19th, 2007 at 7:10 am
39It seems that a few people seem to think that if they buy candles at the dicount stores or other places get the quilaty that they want. They don’t. My sister worked for a candle factory that sold all of it’s first pour candles overseas, and by pour I mean that they melt a mixture of waxes and scents together, then pour it into molds. The second pour, again melting the remaining wax and adding more wax to it, pouring this into molds and selling it here in the states. This to me is second quality. The thrid time they did this it was what they called factory seconds. How it this fair to the consumer. As far as I know Partylite only does one melt and any thing that is not first quality does not go to the consumer. I also know that the cheaper candles have to burn at a higher heat and will burn you if spilt, Partylite burns at 104 degrees, no burning of the skin making this a safe candle around children. But again it’s the old who likes fords over cheveys.
Kim
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:48 pm
40Justin – you seem like you need to get away from the negativity you feel towards PartyLite and focus on something you feel is positive. You’re obviously not a happy person – too bad you’re focusing those bad thoughts on a company that has done so much for so many OTHER people.
Kristina
April 25th, 2007 at 12:01 am
41I am a new consultant and have had only the best experiances and am happy to throw partys for people who are interested in the product that i am selling. If you feel the way the blogger does why would you go knowing how you feel about direct selling. I would never pressure any one to buy something they don’t want. anyone for a good time with like minded friends and want an enjoy able evenign e-mail me and i will set it up. southwest washington partylit consultant
Sharon
April 25th, 2007 at 5:18 am
42After reading your very harshly worded message, I have a few thoughts. Firstly, how miss-guided you really are about the PartyLite products and pressure to purchase.
Secondly, I can’t believe you have had to chase up “orders” and found it troublesome. My friends, my family and myself have never had any troubles if something has been forgotten (remembering that the people that pack the orders are just that – people – everyone is allowed to make a mistake, we have received a “right on it” attitude and it has been sent directly to us.
Thirdly, I wonder why your relative invited your friend who brought you along – that you weren’t invited directly – actually, judging from your happy-chappy atitude I can probably guess that one.
Perhaps next time it would be better to address your comments on a broad spectrum and not directed at one particular company. Especially a company that is so very highly regarded for its products etc.
It is truly a wonderful company, with wonderful people that represent it. The products are very much high quality and deliver what is promised. If you really didn’t like the product you could have claimed a refund with no problems.
It is a shame you had a bad experience at a show – but you should maybe give it another try with a different consultant – I am sure your experience would be different. If you are to do that – perhaps go in with a more open and up-beat attitude. Life should never be looked at as half empty!!
Get hold of a candle – perhaps good old french vanilla, or mulberry, turn down the lights, play some relaxing music and relax and enjoy the true benefits of burning a PartyLite candle. You may just be surprised.
PS. I loved the product so much – because of there fragrance and quality that I became a consultant and now enjoy the opportunity to meet lovely people, give products for free or discounted and work hours that still allows me to enjoy my family and the other things I enjoy. How much pleasure and honest enjoyment do you get from your job choice??
Tonya
April 25th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
43I love the Partylite candles. The scent is all the way through the candle so it lasts as it burns and not just at the beginning. The French Vanilla is the only scent so far that is weak for me. I love how you fold over the edges of a pillar and burn it all the way to the bottom of the candle. I didn’t have good luck with the three wicks though. I light three pillars and about eight votives or tealights and my whole house smells yummy. When I can’t buy Plite I get Yankee candles and they’re not as strong scented. I like that the wax of Plites won’t burn. I wish I could buy them in stores instead of having to find a consultant.
Vanessa
April 25th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
44I buy party lite products but I have nothing against Justin he is kinda right. But it doesn’t matter if your right or wrong when you make an opinoin. I was qutie entertained by what Justin had to say even though I don’t totally agree. Why are some of you getting so offended as if he is attacking you or something? I think that u all are taking this way too seriously!!! Why do u waste ur time? Who cares what other ppl think. Your defending candles (lol) as if its a religion. Get a life!
Edie
April 26th, 2007 at 9:42 am
45This is such a funny thread! People are getting so worked up over such a silly issue. If you like the candles and think they are worth the price, buy them. If not, don’t. Just don’t get mad at other people if they want to buy them. That’s the point at which you cross the line into just plain rudeness.
BTW, I love the candles, but can’t afford them regularly, so I host a party every couple of years and stock my candle closet which always smells sooooo nice!
Kaz
April 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
46Exactly Sharon well said, there is not one bad thing I have discovered about Partylite and believe me, I have tried! I have just re-joined the company after 3 years, and I am definately not a person that does the same thing twice….especially job wise.
But I am a partylite lover and believer, and I intend to convert (what is left to convert) my family and friends, you may pay a bit more for tealights, but, they last, they’re great and life’s for living! I haven’t used anything else other than partylite for 3-4 years.
I’d rather spend 6.25 (pounds) on a box of tealights rather than 1.99 (pounds) on cheaper versions, basically as i was sick of the cheaper varieties not lighting properly and not lasting, with partylite tealights, they last more than 5 hours (my experience) and are WELL worth it.
And I am a bargain hunter, I don’t buy designer clothes or think I am something, but I do like quality products, and I don’t mind forking out a wee bit more for good stuff.
candle-connection
April 27th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
47Hey Justin,
Not going to yabber. I read your post, and some of the backlash, as well. I am also a PL consultant, however, VERY low key. If you are dissatisfied with the scent strength of PL candles, may I suggest you try an aroma melts warmer. I used to be a faithful 3-wick burner. But the aroma melts kick BUTT. They will smell up your entire house in 10-20 minutes. I would recommend Ginger Pumpkin. You will not be dissapointed. I promise.
-d
:o)
Barbara G
April 30th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
48Justin;
Just another consultant here to chime in. Most of the thoughts are true. I stand behind what I sell. Partylite stands behind me.
Just like you can get a rude person at Target, you can get a bad consultant. We do our best to teach folks how to be a good representation of Partylite, but it can only go so far.
I also must speak up with the general slam against Direct Selling Companies. Before you judge too harshly, why don’t you check out the DSA (Direct Selling Association) for some info. There are thousands upon thousands of folks who’s lives have taken turns for the better by starting their own home based business.
We work our own hours, we are our own bosses, and we have no income ceilings. The corporate workplace is so fickle anymore, layoffs, cutbacks, 3% raises….These jobs that many of us have found–I have two degree’s and no one could have ever told me I’d be selling candles for a living–are for some almost a miracle. I personally am making three times the income that I made working 50 & 60 hours a week in corporate America, and am still home to take my kids to school or pick them up when they are sick, no looking for sitters when there is a day off at school….can’t put a price on that.
And as stated above, I obviously believe in Partylite that I was able to give it a try without spending one dime on a kit! Absolutely nothing out of pocket, and in less than 4 years I tripled my income from my full time job. Mine is only one of thousands of similar stories, different companies.
I realize you were stating your opinion, I would just hope that maybe some of these comments will prompt you to do a bit of research for a more informed opinion….Don’t knock an entire industy based on one bad experience.
Thanks for your time.
ps-did you know that everyone experiences a smell differently? Just as we all see colors differently? Maybe it was just the scent you tried? If I were your consultant, I’d have been happy to refund your money immediatly (and would have probably sent you some free candles of another scent to make you happy–it’s all in the customer service!)
Andrea WeizenGirl
April 30th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
49Justin,
Thank you for this blog article. I was just invited to a partylite party and (as with everything) i had to Google it. Thank goodness I did – yours was the fifth result – and you reminded me why I hate going to these things. I’ve been to two ‘other companies’ parties, and I was miserable. Thanks for sparing me the agony again – I suddenly have plans on Friday night!
To the person who thinks that ‘women’ “like to SHOP, GOSSIP and SOCIALIZE!” here’s a tip for you: not all of ‘us’ like to do that. In fact, I would rather go out for beer and sports tv than shop with a herd.
Go Justin. :-)
David (another Weizen)
May 1st, 2007 at 9:45 pm
50Justin -
Don’t let the STEPFORDS get you down… Direct Sales
is a pyramid scheme, relying on peer pressure to
make the select few rich…
Kind of like our entire American economy in the
last 20 years…
PartyLite is a nice way of putting a pleasant, semi-social face on consumerism.
Please realize, “consumerism” is NOT meant as a compliment :)
And by the way, their candles suck. ;>
Nicole
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pm
51I’ve only been to three PL parties and I had a good time, I think they can be a great way to meet people and have a good time with friends, however it really depends on the consultant and the hostess. Personally, I have no problem saying no, if I don’t want anything, then I don’t feel obligated to get it. I have experienced pushiness to host a party and again, I just say no. I have also heard the hostess who is a friend, complain that certain people didn’t buy anything and she felt putout because because she had gone to so much trouble and expense to throw a nice party (she served drinks and food) but I felt this was her choice to do so and she can’t have expectations of people to buy or host a party just so she can get free gifts. I think these products are nice but expensive.
Dawn (Southend)
May 4th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
52I love Partylite candles and products. I used to be a Consultant and have also hosted parties. The candles are of the best quality I have ever come across and believe me I have burned many different brands. The scented ones are lovely and make my house smell gorgeous.
It is worth paying that bit extra for good quality products and thoroughly recommend Partylite!
The Good Kim
May 4th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
53Justin, thanks for telling it like it is!! :) You’ve gotten a lot of responses from people who work with or within the company whose opinions are also biased. I’ve been to a party or two and both times I was broke, but (wasn’t pressured) but “felt” I had to buy so that my friend (the one throwing the “party”) could get her free junk! lol. It’s all so nuts! This company //preys on the “party†members emotions// towards their friends, family members, or work associates who are throwing the “partyâ€. You called it like you saw it… and you were totally correct.
Sue (Washington State)
May 8th, 2007 at 1:51 am
54What if you were invited to go to a high quality department store with a private party of your friends, given personal customer service, and then given $100 or more of free products, on average? Even better; what if the sales person came to your own house, and brought samples and set up gorgeous displays for you? And gave you free samples? And sent out the invitations for you? And worked for you to make the experience as fun and rewarding as possible? And gave away free samples and door prizes? No catches, no minimum sales requirements.
You can schlep off to the dollar store and buy a hundred tea lights for a dollar. You get what you pay for. PartyLite is not about low quality. PartyLite is about selling high quality products in a fun and creative way. If you like the product, but don’t want to pay full price, host a show and get it for free. Do your guests pay? Yes. They pay a reasonable price for a quality product-if they want to. While having a good time and a few laughs. Very few go away disappointed. I have yet to meet anyone who has a complaint about the products.
The prices are set to provide a profit for the company, the consultant and the hostess. What do you think the prices are set for at Target? Profit for the store, the corporation, and the shareholders. At least at PartyLite, your friend, the hostess, gets to share in the profit.
So if you don’t mind candles that burn straight down the middle, have questionable, and possibly dangerous ingredients, smell weird, burn too hot and too fast, and leave most of the wax in puddles, by all means, buy the cheap stuff. But if you want to decorate your home with beautiful, safe, high quality products and fragrances that last, find a PartyLite consultant. She will make it worth your while.
Danette (Pennsylvania)
May 9th, 2007 at 9:39 am
55Dear Justin:
I’m sorry you had such a bad experience with Partylite. It’s unfortunate because as a Partylite Consultant, I take customer service seriously. I have been in the hospitality industry for several years and know that the customer is #1 and it is my job to make sure they are 100% satisfied. And Partylite stands behind that,too! If you weren’t satisfied with your product, you have the right to return it. I always double check orders when I’m entering them and if I or Partylite make a mistake, I compensate my clients. I want to provide top notch quality service so I can continue to have repeat business with my customers.
Every consultant does their shows differently. Every consultant runs their businesses differently. Never buy from someone who makes you feel displeased or uncomfortable. I’m very well aware of other consultants that are in the area and not a part of my team…I’ve heard some are very pushy whether it’s about the products or becoming a consultant. I know how I want to run my business and it’s not scaring away possible repeat clients or team members.
As for the candles, I’ve shown people at every show the different types of candles b/c I used to have some of them in my home including Target brand. I show the difference of Partylite being 100% food quality paraffin wax(non toxic and cooler candles) ,100% cotton wicks (clean burn), color and fragrance throughout the candle, proper candle care tips…..Based on the store quality candles, you can see and smell the difference. My Target sample is 1/2 light blue and white b/c it’s not quality wax and color isnt’ all the way through. I have another candle that is deformed b/c poor quality wax. I have my Glade candle, which has a pit and 80% goes unused as well as if I were to continue burning it….all the chemicals that it is made from are going into the air, not good. YCandles, they’re close to our quality, but they put metal in their wicks to help keep the wicks straight….you’re burning metal into the air, not good. YCandles and B & B works both have aroma melts, but they have a geyser affect, our aroma melt warmers don’t do that (Tidbit for all you Partylite consultants to share with your guests in the future! Found that out from a friend who worked for B & B works!).
Partylite takes great pride in the quality of their items. Therefore, like I stated before, you should return something if you’re not satisfied.
I know Direct Selling Companies get a bad reputation, but I tried out a different one back in the college days….my friend left me high and dry with no help…I stopped right away. With Partylite, my girlfriend got me started and it has been fun! She and my leader have been a great support team, we talk at least every other day, we have brainstorming sessions, we get creative with gifts to give away, you name it, we’re doing it! We want our members to succeed, therefore, we help each other 100%. Unfortunately, I don’t think you’re consultant did a good job of “reading her guests”….very important! I try to have 3 different types of games, ideas ready so that when everyone arrives, I can make it fun. I’m short, sweet and to the point. For many people, it’s a time to get out and just relax with friends….I always tell people to keep in mind that they don’t have to buy for themselves, if they see something for a birthday present, wedding, anniversary, keep it in mind. And if they never tried Partylite before, to try something simple like our jar candles! I love my jar candle; it gets rid of the yucky kitchen smells the kids don’t like while I’m preparing dinner…everytime the yummy ginger pumpkin smells up the room.
I will say too that you may get a mix of smells when you go to a Partylite show b/c we are usually burning candles. I try to stick to 2-3 scents so it’s not overwhelming….that’s what scent sampler boxes are for as well as coffee beans (they help clear the nose each sniff!)……
You also have to look at direct selling in a different light. I had fun and did a Men Only show for Mother’s Day! It was great b/c the Men came over, shopped for their wives and everything was wrapped and delivered to them! It’s a way for people to stay away from malls; I’m definitely not a mall shopper and if I could do it all from home, I do! I have 4 kids and I don’t have time to be packing 4 girls up to go to the mall. So do remember, there are people who don’t like having to go shopping.
Another food for thought, I have a friend who isn’t a candle fan, but that’s why we also sell reed diffusers! These are great for offices when you’re not allowed to burn candles or incense in your office. Candles aren’t for everyone, just like scrapbooking and cooking isn’t for everyone. But if it’s your thing, you go and have fun. Otherwise, you just say no thanks.
I agree with my fellow Partylite Consultants out there…you need to let one of us show you that we are here to make the customer happy. Everything and everyone deserves a second chance!
Hope you have a better burning experience soon!
Michelle
May 10th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
56Before someone (David) blasts PartyLite as a “pyramid scheme,” perhaps he should actually know what one is, versus multi-level marketing companies. A little education is a wonderful thing.
Secondly, you don’t have to like PL candles; no one is making you like them or buy them. But you are wrong about the scents. They are infused throughout the wax, so no, the scent doesn’t just lie in the box. PartyLite candles just aren’t as overpowering as other candle companies, say, ones that are popular in the north. Perhaps you have a dull sense of smell. If this is so, I’d suggest the aroma melts, which have stronger scents.
I’m curious, though; do you react this strongly with every bad business or commerce experience you have? If the kid at McDonalds suggests you purchase an apple pie, do you draft a blog entry to bash McDonalds? Every company has it’s bad employees or reps. If you’re attending a show against your will or desire, it’s not the consultant’s fault you aren’t honest enough with your friends to say, “No, thanks!”
You’re really foolish if you truly think you’re not being pressured and bombarded to buy more each and every time you enter a brick-and-mortar store. Every store is designed to entice you to buy more than what you went in for. There’s a whole science behind store design. You’re under far more pressure to buy at Target when you walk in the door than you are at a PartyLite show.
As far as prices; yes, they’re a bit more than what you will pay at Walmart or the Dollar Store. But if you compare the prices of PartyLite, Yankee and Gold Canyon, you’ll find the prices are comparable. You certainly don’t have to pay them. You’re more than free to buy your candles at Walmart. Just as you don’t have to buy Birkenstocks, you can buy the same style at Payless. You do get what you pay for though.
Linda
May 14th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
57This has been the most interesting blog I have ever seen. First of all, I have been a PL Consultant for 10 years. I am now down to a few parties a year, because Partylite HAS cut the scent in the candles. They DO NOT SMELL as strong as they used to. I am sure all the consultants here have not been with PL for as long as I have, because if you had been, you would know that they are nothing like they were in the beginning. Plus the shipping costs are astronomical. That is why I lost so many people to Yankee & Abby Candles. Plus let me tell you, I burned a 3-wick a few weeks ago, I had the Seville set against a wall, one of the wicks just disappeared, so I took the rest of the candle (which there was over 1/2 left) out of the stand. When I did that, I saw a smudge on the wall, took a rag and it was covered in soot. Now I feel as if I cannot brag on the virtues of PL candles and their wicks,,,,, They have gone so down hill since I first started. All you new consultants… you will figure it out in a little while, wait until all your family and friend get to the point that they hate to see you coming, Believe me, it won’t take long for that to happen either. My Point,,, your guest will figure out that even though the cheaper candles don’t consume themselves, they can get stronger scents cheaper and buy more at the cheaper rate and still come out ahead.
Melanie
May 15th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
58How sad Linda! I have been w/PartyLite for 11 years and a consumer for 13 years. What I have found about PartyLite is completely opposite. They have adjusted the product line to fit all consumers. There are fragrances that are not overpowering for those that are sensitive and scents that are for those who have a bad “smeller”. Ten years ago we only had like 20 fragrances. Now we have 60 AND unscented to accomodate big social gatherings.
We have stayed with the times making it easier for us to have something new to offier. I see my family ALL the time and they always ask me how my business is going. Utilizing the family to branch your business is great but I find booking shows with new groups is what grows my business. I only do shows with family unless they want it. They come to me when they want to order.
I went on this looking for a good balance of feedback about PartyLite to send to a customer who is skeptical as well as her friends. I am sending her a dozen tealights to share with her friends, a mini jar candle for her and I am printing this whole blog. Thank you for doing my job for me!!! I know she and her friends will fall in love with PartyLite and she will see that MOST people love PartyLite. Sure, there will always be the complainers, but that’s okay, go relax and light a candle!
Sally
May 16th, 2007 at 7:26 am
59Wow!!!! I wonder what would have happened if Justin had gone to a jewellry party. Some of those can be very expensive. And yes some consultants can be very pushy. I have done many home based buisness and none of them are a get rich quick thing, you have to work it just like any other job. But the good thing is you set your hours, how much you want to earn, and here’s a thought, need a raise, do more with your buisness. I also work in a retail field, my raise this year .25 cents per hour. Now gas has gone up, food has gone up, health care up, and all the other items we need to live in this FREE country. My raise, GONE!!! Thank God I can do a job like Partylite to earn the extra I need to take care of my family doing the fun things in life. So to any one who thinks that direct marketing sales is a joke and only the one on the top makes the big meal ticket, you are only half right, I get some of that also, and I am the one who can fire me, or give myself a raise and how much I want.
DiDi
May 16th, 2007 at 11:14 am
60Linda…you say you have a few parties a year? Where are you located? I wouldn’t mind booking a party with an honest sales person.
Trixie
May 18th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
61The only time PartyLite candles were a good value was when truckloads of them appeared at Big Lots stores for 99 cents a piece. I bought up a lot of them, sold them on eBay. Wretched smelling things, too, and I tried several. Guess what? They do burn down the middle, etc. What is so special about these “candles” that people will pay outrageous prices for them? I can’t imagine. Every one of them reminded me of the smell of a public restroom deodorizer. No comparison to Yankee, Colonial Candle, Root, Trapp, White Barn, or any of the other hundreds of brands of candles (and tarts) out there. You wanna know how to get the very best candles, with the best quality waxes, colors, and scents? Learn to make your own. You’ll never overpay for a brand name candle again. Anyone can do it, but most people are too lazy or intimidated at the thought of trying it. If you are that “candle crazy” you should be making your own, to your own exacting standards. It’s not magic, people.
Stephanie
May 18th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
62Hi. I just wanted to say that I’m very glad that I came across this blog. I’ve ordered things from friends, but had never attended a party until last Tuesday and it couldn’t have come at a better time. I was laid off from a high paying job in GA 2 years ago and moved to the hills of WV in order to be closer to my friends and family. The upside, other than friends and family, is that I live in a very beautiful area that offers year round outdoor activities (skiing, mountain biking, hiking, etc.). The dowside is that it is REALLY hard to make a decent living and I found myself living hand to mouth, a complete lifestyle turn around. So, I’ve been trying to figure out how to bring in some extra income that didn’t involve working my finger to the bone for very little return. I’ve attended home parties several times over the years and have always enjoyed them and usually will buy at least something, partly because I like to shop and partly to help out my hostess (Longeberger, Tupperware, MaryKay, and Women of the world, just to name a few that I’ve attended). I always tuned out the part where they talk about consulting because it was never something I was interested in. As a matter of fact, I very rarely agreed to host a party because I didn’t want the hassel and I never seemed to have many people attend. But this time, my ears perked up, expecially when she said that there was no upfront cost to get going. I talked to my friends and family and did a lot of thinking and research (which, obviously, I’m still doing…lol) and I finally thought, “what’ve I got to lose?” Absolutely nothing, but everything to gain. Because we’re in such a rural area, my friends are actually excited that they’ll have a PartyLite consultant so close. I was afraid that I’d run out of contacts extremely quickly because there really aren’t that many people around here, but then I realized that I can branch out to MD (my home state) and VA as well, not to mention all my friends in GA. That’s one thing that was so attractive to me, that I’m not tied to a territory. If I visit my best friend in FL, I can do a show while I’m down there and write off some of my travel expenses to boot.
Anyhow, my kick off party is May 29 and I’m very excited to be taking this leap, although I’m quite nervous as well because I really want to do a good job. I’ve already thought of ideas to make the job more fun and hopefully bring in new contacts and really enjoyed some of the tips sprinkled throughout this blog (like the one person says that she actually does a demo to show her party goers the differences between PL candles and cheaper brands).
As for product quality, I originally purchased PL products to help out my friend in VA (one of the people that agreed to host a show as one of my first month’s 6) a few years ago. I also purchased a couple of sconces and votive holders as a gift for my mother and she loves them. I was very impressed with the quality of the candle holders. The one that I got for myself is a tealight candle holder (tall pewter candlestick) with a Tiffany style shade. It is actually very heavy compared to some cheaper items that you might find at Target or Wal-mart (ones that look like they should be heavy but you can feel the low quality once you hold it in your hands) and I just love the look of the candlelight coming through the stained glass.
Oh, and by the way, I am broke and did not purchase a single thing at my friend’s party the other night, but still had a great time and came away with a job opportunity. And she still brought in over $500 with only 5 paying guests who are very excited with the products they ordered.
Well, thanks for letting me put my 2 cents worh in. Wish me luck :)
Susan
May 20th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
63Wow Justin,
You certainly know how to attract comments. If you can continue the replies to your original blog entry I am sure you will win some kind of prize for blog length.
I am sure the new company that now owns Partylite will get the scents right, or maybe they won’t based on their paying a couple of Million for the business.
However of more importance is your dislike of direct sales companies, please don’t tag them all as the same as the successful ones have helped many people with limited education and business skills develop into exceptional leaders. Many of world’ wealthy will tell you that DS is the best way to leverage youself. A good DS company will provide you the education to be a true leader. If however there are some pushy distributors that is their personality not necessary the trait of the company. Many DS companies are doing something for world poverty and homeless childres, are you?
Justin
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 am
64At this point I really don’t even know what I could begin to say about this thread. I initially wrote it as merely a vent for my frustrations, I wasn’t moaning or complaining per se but it was definitely perceived that way from the absurd comments I have received as well as emails, holy cow.
I guess I am thankful for all the interest in my mere attempt to express some thoughts about partylite. By the way, I had received an incorrect item and it took more than two months to receive the correct item. WAY TO GO PARTYLITE I LOVE YOU!
That is sarcasm and actually, I am still pretty upset. Word, won’t be doing much business with the ole’ pl any more.
Yurica
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:41 am
65Hello,
I want to say something but I do not expect much to answer from you but I think you might benefit from my telling of story.
I am just moving to this country and my friend gave me partylite to burn. I burn candle lot but never they last as long as these candles. I agree they have no burning smell but warmers and the reed difuusers do.
To make money here I am consultant and I see how consultant could take peoples money and run with no product to give to people but I think that this is not the partylite fault that it is consultant fault.
I hope you have better partylite in future.
Phil
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:19 am
66Well, quite a rant you have here. I just went to one of the links you put up and found some candles…but nothing like the stuff that Partylite sells. Sure their parent company sells some, but they are smart enough not to duplicate.
I have noticed one thing that I found disconcerting. When I got my tealights the strength of the scent wasn’t close to the scent of the sample. I’m not saying the scent was wrong, I’m just saying it was much weaker. I will contact Partylite about that personally. This, I think, is deceptive. Either the sampler needs to be changed or the products need to be brought inline to the sampler. I read about some product called Scentplus. Maybe that is what the sampler was. Not a good idea. Does this product cost more?
Lindsay (The Nubie Consultant)
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 am
67Hi,
My name is Lindsay and I am the new girl with my region for PL. I attended a party 3 months ago, bought 170 dollars worth of merchandise, recieved my mercandise 2 weeks later, and have since fallen in love with the product. I am now becoming a consultant. I knew that a product this great sells itself and anyone else I know that has used their product agrees.
Bottom line Justin: You had a bad experience. It does not define PartyLite’s customer service or the quality of the company or products. You are one bad case out of many more satisfied cases. It is unfortunate that it was you, but we are all humans who make mistakes :) However, I think you have a major misconception of what people assume when they attend PL parties. Like I have heard many of the girls state above…girls like reasons to get together with family and friends. And what better reason than to shop for great candles and accessories?? Haha, we love it! Anyways, sorry for your unfortunate experience.
Phil
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 pm
68Just did some further investigating. My Teakwood Cardamom was definitely too close to that Cinnamon sticks BLASTER in my sample box. The Teakwood Cardamom has been overpowered and infused with cinnamon. That Teakwood Cardamom is a much subtler fragrance. My tealights are OK, and I’ve decided not to let anyone smell that sampler anymore. Going to use a sampler that keeps all samples separate and pure.
Tracy
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:52 pm
69Justin,
I will have to agree with your last post…I think it’s complete out of control that you can’t voice your opinion on a product that you weren’t happy with…your blog was one of the number one hits on GOOGLE because of all these blog replies….
To all the others that posted replies….PLEASE think carefully about what you are willing to post on someone elses blog. Some people went too far in making their opinion try to be Justin’s opinion…frankly I love partylite, my house is full of it, and I have had some of their product that I hated…returned it and complained and got my hard earned money back. EVERYONE had an opinion…i’m sure you all have heard what they say about opinion and I’m not willing to post that. Lets move on people and get over someone ELSES opinion.
Phil
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:43 am
70Traci, this guy made himself a lightning rod by making his come up on searches. Don’t think that was accidental. If your gonna bitch from the steps of the courthouse don’t think no one will offer another opinion. You think he didn’t want anyone to read this?
rose
May 23rd, 2007 at 5:26 pm
71partylite products are awesome! i find the product overpriced, but nothing else comes close to it, so i guess you get what you pay for.
Candi
May 25th, 2007 at 9:37 am
72I pay what I pay for Partylite because I’ve never found another candle like the candle that Partylite can give me. I even tried to be a consultant for a while, but I’m horrible at sales… so I couldn’t make a profit. There is a reason I’m online right now from Ireland looking for ways to buy Partylite products online– I miss them!
I usually hate these sort of companies, and I’ve been burned in the past (*cough Melaleuca cough*)… but I’ll tell you this much, Partylite is actually a pretty decent company and they give their employees a ton of perks, and you take a good percentage of your sales as your pay. When I didn’t want to be part of the company anymore no one hassled me for leaving. And I got a shitload of free candles just for doing 3 shows!
Bobbi
May 27th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
73You don’t buy a product without liking it.. it’s that easy.. Partylite has been around for years…. originally made by Cape Cod Candles…
I have bought (thru parties and just to order) from my consultant… for many years.. they are ‘THEE” best candle product out there… above all candles… yes I do agree that the “accessories” are a bit on the pricey side.. but… if there is “ever” any problems with them… they are replaced or refunded with out any questions….. I dont have alot of accessories in my house… but a few pieces that I have purchased full price and some from hosting a party…
AS for the wax, it burns clean, and smoke free and you never get that yucking black soot bulb on the wick…..
As for buying “They same thing” at Target or Winners, or werever….. you get what you pay for…
Hope everyone has a great day!
Laurie
May 27th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
74I would like to say good luck to Stephanie.
i did PL in the Uk for 10months and after a slow start did very well at it. You will get out of it what you put in plus some.!! I have now moved to Australia and have started doing it here. It is a great job for me as I am a Mum of two young children i can earn an income without compromising my time with them. It is a job you have to work at like any other if you want to be successful. But unlike most other jobs you get a pat on the back for a job well done. free product, trips etc but like i said you have to work at it. But No.1 priority is be true to your customers look after them and they will be loyal to you. Well done for giving it a go you have nothing to loose and everything to gain. CU at the top!!
Laurie
May 27th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
75Hi Candi
PL is actually thinking of launching into Ireland.
I could put you in touch with a lady in the Uk who maybe able to get PL candles to you let me know if you want a NO.
SHELBY
May 30th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
76I have been reading the complaints and the defenders of partylite(consultants) responses,but no one is explaining why the shipping and handling prices are so high, the long wait to receive products (2 weeks ) is way too long.As a creative memories consultant I received my products in 2 days. And why does it take sooo long to receive replacement items that arrived damaged?????
Sally
June 4th, 2007 at 7:04 am
77When replacements take so long, it is because they come by the post office. Regular orders come by way of the ups, better known as the big brown truck at my house. As far as orders taking 2 or more weeks to get, see your hostess. Has she closed out her party the day of the party, or is she still gathering orders to increase her sales. Some will get outside orders before the party, others will wait to see what they still need. I know that if I put an order in it takes about 1 week to get it back from the time it is placed. I run 2 buisness that I have to place orders from. This is true for any company. Shipping and handling price are based on weight, and look at the gas prices. Would you pay $10.00 to drive to a specialty store or pay $5.00 to have it shipped to your home? So Shelby, have you ever ordered any thing on line or from a home shopping network? What was the turn around time for them and the shipping and handling price? Ever one in this world is out to make the money.
Brenda
June 4th, 2007 at 10:07 am
78I am shocked at how two-faced people are about this. Why accept the invitation if you don’t want to go? Instead of saying you’ll go and then being resentful and griping behind the hostess’ back, why not simply say, “No thank you. I’m not interested in this product (or home parties, or whatever).” I don’t go to any sales party unless the product is something I have an interest in on some level. Personally, I love Partylite products and have purchased them for years. I don’t host parties and I don’t attend parties…I simply call the consultant when I want something and order directly from her…that is an option, too, you know.
candle-connection
June 4th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
79Hi guys,
My second post on this silly blog. I saw someone mention something about an “honest” PL salesperson. I tell you, I have come across them (I AM one!!), and also the opposite. I, like Linda, am a consultant, but only have a few shows a year, and sometimes they are “paper only” – servicing only those who want to put an order in – no one needs to throw a party and entertain and there is CERTAINLY no pressure. I do this because I love the product – have for over 15 years – but you’re also right – I never make any money on it. Funny though, my favourite scent has never changed over that time, either. (Honeydew – I find it one of the strongest scents). At any rate, if you have the right consultant, things are easy. Really, they are. And if I had a customer in Ireland, I’d do my best to make them happy, too!! The shipping and handling SUCKS and is the biggest thorn in my side. It’s a complete rip off. BUT, the product is the best. It’s like a conceited person who knows they are hot – they have high expectations and you hate them for it, even though you secretly conceded that, yeah, they’re hot….. That’s the only analagy I can come up with, and is CERTAINLY no excuse. It’s highway robbery. However, I continue to pay, because absolutely nothing else will due once you’ve experienced PL. I have migrated away from the candles, and am on to the aroma melts warmers- they give way more scent than anything else. Also, the new reed diffusers are nice in terms of strength of smell, but I just wish they had a few more scents to choose from! Anyways, Justin probably wishes that he never posted this. But I think at this point its become more of a PL blog than a Justin blog. Sorry we’ve taken over dude!
:)
-d
Judy Vickrey
June 6th, 2007 at 7:52 am
80Justin, it sounds to me like you have already been exposed to too many chemicals in your lifetime and it has adversely affected your ability to smell or even make rational decisions. That’s too bad. Maybe you should look at detoxifying your home. It might not be too late for you.
L N
June 12th, 2007 at 8:12 am
81You are one sad soul; you hate direct selling programs and go to a party. You just want something to complain about. You dislike it so much you made a purchase. Wasn’t bold enough to make your statement at the party by not purchasing.
There are many people out there that LOVE the PartyLite product and come to these parties to have fun with the friends and get a high quality product.
You don’t even have your facts straight as you cannot purchase PartyLite products on-line (legitly).
If the program was so bad and everyone felt like you there would be no direct selling companies left.
Apparently you are not the majority.
I am a consultant for PartyLite and I never pressure anyone to purchase anything. I offer my candles and assessories and the customer makes the choice if the need anything. I also have people attend parties for the fun and not purchase and I still thank them for coming and having fun.
Don’t feed what you don’t like and then complain about it.
Rhea
June 15th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
82Hey~ Just returning home from a “show” in Northern Minnesota where people truly do come to shows and CHOOSE to not buy anything. As a Consultant and Leader with PL for just about 9 years, I can honestly share that it’s not uncommon for guests to come and not purchase. I don’t take it as “rude” or “offensive”…I take it as #1, they possibly were not able to afford a “luxury” tonight for themselves. #2, they didn’t find anything that couldn’t live without. No big deal…I offer EVERY guest an option to host a show and to find out if they’d ever thought about making additional “fun money” doing something like PL. Truly, Direct Sales is not for everyone, but meant for everyone to know about. A “show” consists of several areas from ordering a product, to finding out how to earn the product for free and to earning money for selling the product. All 3 areas should be equally consulted on during a 45 minute show interactive get together.
What I can share about shippding AND handing is that we’ve changed from a flat rate to a 10% rate which does help the majority of the purchasing customers. The maximum shipping is $15. Customers who love to burn candles don’t mind this fee b/c they know they’re receiving a valuable consultant for future purchases and service.
If I had a Target Sales Associate call me each month to share what was available to me that she knew would fit into my home and style…I’d find that very smart of Target! That’s what PL has…a personal party planner and consultant to provide service. Did you know that since I joined PL, nearly 9 years ago the prices of tealights and votives never increased until just this past January ‘07. I will share that our candles are based of petroleum…who hasn’t noticed that petroleum has INCREASED?
Please compare and if you do have a bad “experience”…I’ve never seen PL not take care of their customers. It’s the INDEPENDENT Consultants that often are letting down the customers. There are more success experiences than bad.
We’ve got a new President in PL-USA! We’ve had enhancements to our products, programs and people! If anyone needs a great income opportunity that matches YOUR efforts…don’t hesitate to let me provide the service and answers for you.
I’m a “lifer” with the company!
With respect to Justin…you deserve to express your opinion. We’re a passionate group…those of us in PL who love our to share our gift of PL.
Maleen
June 18th, 2007 at 11:50 am
83Je n’ai pas lu tous vos commentaires car trop long excusez moi ! J”habite en France je ne connaissais pas PL, il y a deux mois j’ai fais une réunion, j’ai été attirée, scotchée par les produits présentés, j’ai donc eu droit a un cadeau grace aux commandes de mes invités une somme dérisoire de 42 Euros par rapport a la commande finale de 300 Euros, bref je mets ma main au porte monnaie et m’offre quelques bougies en plus. Je reçois ma commande et là déconvenue, super déçue des bougies vanille/ Bourbon. Une amie se lance dans la partie en devenant conseillère; pour lui faire plaisir je commande a nouveau mais plus de vanille je prends la framboise (la pas de problème, le hic c’est que je n’aime que la vanille pas de chance pour moi)et la surprise c’est un engrenage et évidemment une escroquerie, la conseillère qui démarre ne reçoit rien a part un petit lot de consolation en vendant lors de sa présentation initiale pour 310 euros de bougies, après on l’a lache dans la nature et elle doit se débrouiller, comment vendre des produits et de bougies quand on ne connait pas les produits ? Quand on ne possède pas les produits ? Ridicule de se familiriser avec un catalogue !! De plus la conseillère doit tout payer, les catalogues, les stylos, les bougies , les supports, même le téléphone !! Une conseillère qui démarre paye ses communications alors qu’une leader d’unité a un numéro gratuit (vert en france)sur chaque vente de mon amie ,la personne qui l’a recruté touche 50 euros en bons cadeaux (pour s’acheter des bougies) alors que mon amie RIEN, ne serait il pas plus judiciaeux de donner ces 50 Euros a la nouvelle conseillère afin qu’elle se constitue son propre stock? Le système pyramidale est interdit en france est pourtant sous couvert de PL des nanas se font de l’argent sans se bouger alors que se sont toutes les petites en bas de l’échelle qui ramènent l’argent tout en se faisant des salaires dérisoires de 150 euros par mois ??? C’est honteux et malhonnête, la pratique est honteuse pour les futures conseillères, car elles ne sont pas au courant de ses pratiques avant d’avoir signé leur contrat de 3 mois pratiques que je n’ai pas détaillée car j’en oublie beaucoup. Je ne sais pas comment fonctionne PL chez vous mais en France c’est un business ou certaines personnes profitent de la crédulité et aussi de la précarité d’autres personnes. Je reste cliente chez mon amie pour lui assurer ses objectifs sinon je ne cautionnerais pas ce genre d’entreprise qui volent non seulement les clients par des prix exorbitants sur des articles made in CHina et qui vole aussi ses employées au profit des autres. Voila l’avis d’une française bien remontée. Bisous de France
Barbara G
June 19th, 2007 at 10:01 am
84Justin;
You posted again that you wont be doing business because it took 2 months to get your replacement (entry #64)….Exactly what is it you don’t understand about the concept of Independent Consultants? EACH person runs their own business! You are slamming an ENTIRE company based on ONE out of FORTY THOUSAND reps.
You act as though it is just your opinion, but how many posts are saying ‘thanks, now I wont go to a party?’ You are hurting not PartyLite as a company, nor the weenie who did the party you attended–you are are taking business away from people who take their jobs seriously and give good customer service.
If you want to keep slamming PartyLite, then do it by being informed and attending parties with DIFFERENT consultants. ONE EXPERIENCE/PERSON DOES NOT REFLECT EVERYONE OUT THERE…that is why others are slamming you–you wont give an inch that maybe, just maybe you dont have enough information to have an INFORMED opinion!
It is just completely unfortunate that your blog comes up so prominently on Google, you are causing damage to honest people that dont deserve it and are trying to earn a living. I truly wish you could understand that.
Jayne
June 19th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
85I’m a former consultant for a similar company, and I do think it’s a great opportunity for a lot of people to earn money and set their own schedule. Generally, I am happy when I get invited to something like this. I do have one person in my life that is forever having a “show” at her house. I swear, I must get 6 invitations a year at least from this person, and she does get offended if you don’t buy anything. I have heard her say things about other people that have “eaten her food, and drank her wine” and didn’t purchase anything. She happens to think that it’s very rude not to purchase anything. I don’t agree. When finances are tight, I have tried to decline the invitation, but then I get a guilt trip from her, and then bombarded with emails and catalogs. I must say that I have been to several parties hosted by other people, not purchased a thing, and had a great guilt free time. The worst part is that somehow 2 of her consultant friend have gotten wind that i am a former consultant, and the hounding has been going on for a very long time. I’ve tried to be polite and let them know that I am not interested, but the have the need to “check back” with me every couple of months. I made a rule, I’m busy!!!
Kay
June 20th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
86Justin is right. The rest of you are in denial. Quit making your friends uncomfortable by asking them to buy things they weren’t interested in in the first place. Every time I turn around, someone is selling something and because I’m their friend, they ask me to buy. I can’t afford the shopping and I miss my friends. Try having two people in the family selling things that are competitors. Good GOD!
Tameka
June 21st, 2007 at 9:30 am
87Justin Justin I am so sorry that you and the other complainers feel that Partylite is such a bad company. Partylite is a company that is trying to get people focused on working to live not living to work, and as far as customer service there are rude ones everywhere. If you do not like the products DONOT attend a party simple OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheryl
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:22 pm
88I think some people (David for example) are confused as to the differences between the Direct Selling concept,and Multi-level marketing/Pryamid-type companies.
I am certain everyone has heard of Amway. I used to be a “distributor” quite some time ago. (Don’t let anyone fool you QUIXTAR IS AMWAY!! Amway changed it’s name! I know, I was there.)
That company was horrible! And not just my experience either. I was told because I was the “woman” I was to sit back and let my husband do the demos. I did them better, we both agreed to that. We also NEVER made any money, and we always saw our upline getting profits off of what we sold or bought. I was told, by our upline,that the top guy gets a huge check, then our upline gets a check from him, and then that person gives part of what they made to the downline, etc etc. I don’t deny that THAT company is a pyramid!! Top makes money, bottom does the work.
Now as far as Direct Selling goes, and I will use PartyLite as my example, it is NOT that way.
How do I know?
I have been a consultant for 6 years! And DAMN proud of it too. Have I sponsored? Yes.everal times. Do I make money from thier sales? NO! You know why? Because I did not CHOOSE TO! I did not CHOOSE to become a leader. Those people I sponsored MAKE MORE THAN I DO!! Because they CHOOSE TO! Nowhere in a pryamid or MLM company can someone’s own sponsoree go AHEAD of them! The sponsor gets ahead simply by the others sponsoring! Then they get more money! It’s that simple. (“Sit back and let it roll in” I was told!)
As far as the scents not being strong enough, smoker’s lose thier sense of smell due to the constant onslaught of nicotine and other contaminats in the second hand smoke. Smell a smoker’s stuff or clothes, they can’t smell that! (I used to smoke, never knew my kids smelled that way!)Not saying everyone who can’t smell the scents is a smoker, just one example I personally experienced. And as for the one post about the candles someone purchased at BigLots (Then promptly sold on Ebay)
Those specific candles were called Starry Night pillars and Ball candles.
THEY WERE MADE TO TUNNEL SO YOU COULD SEE THE GLITTERING AFFECT THROUGH-OUT THE CANDLES BURN TIME!
Those were the ONLY ones that did that, and PartyLite puled them from the line because they were not burning correctly, and they were getting too hot. The comapny that produced that batch FOR PartyLite sold them, in the copyrighted boxes, to BigLots without permission from PartyLite or Blythe Industries.Simply because the PartyLite Home Office would not accept them no matter what. I do have a question for that Blogger. Why would you ever buy a lot of candles that you described as smelling like a “public toilet” just to sell them on EBay? Did you LIE about thier scent on your auction page? Or did you list them as a “public toilet” scent and sell them that way? Curious.
I think you saw an opportunity to make a profit from people. you knew they’d sell for more than you paid for them, because people know the PartyLite name and TRUST the brand. So you bought them for that reason. Not to enjoy them for yourself. So why bash a companies product if you profited from it? Simply childish.
As a Consultant, and a well educated person, I believe that Justin has the right to cpmplain. He had a bad experience. I have been known to complain too. But I think his complaint was too broadly swept across DS companies, And that can have a negative effect, as it has shown here. Also, and excuse me for not reading other blogs from you Justin, I believe some people are just negative towards almost everything. I married such a person, and he says literally the same type of things about all differnt kinds of associations, and businesses. Two examples:
He thinks Girl Scouts is bad and that the PTA is a group of “nazi mom’s trying to get us to buy everything from fundraisers so the school doesn’t have to pay for SH@T!”
Seriously!
So take Justin’s initial Blog entry in the fashion it was typed out.
Negatively charged, but rightly posted, for it is HIS OPINION and his right to complain. Although he could get facts before blogging next time! ;) (What are Tealight PartyLites? You need to get facts first.)
Everyone else?
You are on your own, As I am.
Cheryl
Jill
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pm
89I cannot smell Partylite candles eitherm now can most of the people i know who have ordered them. I guess we all have a problem with our smelling sense, haha! That is crazy who suggested that….i had to laugh!! I have bought products from this company, we are stationed in italy in a military community, it isbig here and illegal for us but back to the point….i can but nice candles that burn just as well other places for a fraction of the price. I dont ever get to walmart anymore living here but they have a candle there called Mainstays…..their line is wonderful. I buy the hazelnut creme scent and the jar candle burns great, clean all the way to the bottom. And, the smell is strong, i can burn it upstairs and smell it coming up the stairs!! YUM! I now have my mom mail me these candles once in a while. Did i mention a small jar candle with 3 wicks is like 5.00?? Tyr them, they are great!! The jar ones smell better than the pillars but I think thats true with any candle co. I also order online form keystone candle.com and they are great too, and very well priced. I still will but now and then from Partylite because we dont have much other oportunities over here to buy other kinds, but when we finally move back to the usa, i will be at walmart when i need a candle!!!!!!
CandleLady
June 24th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
90Hey Justin –
So sorry you have had a bad PL experience. You should never buy anything as a result of pressure and that is certainly not the way I run my business. I don’t know what you ordered but I would be willing to send you a sample of a different scent and maybe you’ll get a different experience. Some scents are lighter than others and if you are burning a small candle (tealight) in a large room – you may not be able to smell it as much as if you used a larger candle.
Send me your shipping address and I’ll ship some free candles your way. If you like them… please blog all of us hardworking candle consulants and let us know!
candlesbypl@gmail.com
Cheers~
Liz
June 28th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
91I just hosted a party 2 weeks ago and had a great time. Everyone who came had a great time. My consultant, Carol-Jo, is just a delight. She is so helpful with everything. My mother-in-law was having a hard time choosing a scent, since she is allergic to many scents and just plain doesn’t like others, so she asked the consultant for help on choosing a nice scent. The consultant was very helpful in helping my mother-in-law pick a few scents she just loved.
At no point in time did the consultant ever push anyone to buy anything. My guests seemed pretty eager to order products. In fact, everyone had a hard time narrowing their choices down.
Fast-forward to just a few days ago…June 25th my order shipped through FedEx. The package was supposedly delivered to my front door yesterday–it wasn’t. I called FedEx countless times today to no real avail. I contacted my partylite consultant, however, to notify her of my lost packages and she got back to me immediately saying my entire order has been reshipped through UPS (We’re not going through FedEx again) and should arrive rush delivery on July 5th (due to the holiday).
PartyLite has honor and integrity. They stand by their products and provide excellent customer service. I am very pleased with PartyLite overall.
Margaret/Candle Party Consultant
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 am
92I would love to thank you Justin for starting this blog. I am a candle consultant and have sponsored two people who have read these blogs. I also have hosted several partys from here. Some women today, know that there are 47 million consultants in this wonderful business already and that in 10 years, there will be over 200 million. Why not start your business today and make money from the start? Some, not all, women love entertaining and also attending candle shows! They are fun, informative, and exciting. I am here for anyone who would like more information on this absolutely lucrative business. A flexible schedule, no investment, and no delivery business is the career for women today! Write me at tututango123@aol.com.
Shelia
July 5th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
93I ‘ve just started a candle business and my neice called me to send her mother in law some of my candles because she had bought the partylite candles and is not happy with them. Said they were too pricey and they didn’t have a good scent throw. I am sending her wax dipped bears and candles and we are in two different states that are miles apart. i have never heard of partylite candles until tonight. She asked me to check them out on the web. My candles have all the great qualities their candles have at a 1/4 of the cost. They have too be higher because hostess gets product and rep gets commission.
Eileen
July 6th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
94I’ve been using partylite candles for about 7 years now. They burn clean and do not ruin my wood shelves if one of my kids happens to knock one over. I have an awesome consultant who has become more like a friend. When the demonstration is over, my consultant packs up and then sits with us to eat snacks and talk. I always have an abundant supply of food and drinks for my guests, along with several nice door prizes for anyone in attendance(whether they purchase or not). Some of my family members are not very mobile and they welcome the opportunity to get out of the house and socialize with a group of women friends. Because I’m a a stay at home mom with 5 kids, having the parties gives me a chance to have adult conversation, try out recipies that my kids won’t like, and earn some candles for free. We do earn our rewards. Hostesses are after all, typically cleaning and cooking and serving their guests, plus delivering the items when they come in. What’s even better, is I have an opportunity to get the inside scoop on items my family and friends like (good for Christmas and Birthday gifts). I often times use some of my hostess credit to get gifts for other people and when I have had an extra successful party, I add additional free candles to my guests orders, before I deliver them. Everybody wins!
kathy
July 7th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
95I like the parties
I have had party lite parties, with friends. We have always had a good time.
I had a party at my home and what I did was a pasta dinner, salad, wine, coffee, deserts etc.
When I did the party it was more to get everyone together that had not see each other for awhile. I always tell my friends that this is more a get together and if you want to buy it is up to You I do not belive
in pressure selling.
I am in sales and I know what it is like to try and sell something. But I do believe that if someone wants something then they will buy it, people do not just buy because they feel they have too at these parties.
I like the candles and the different pieces that you can buy to put them in.
The Mojita was the best Hope they bring it back.
I feel it is up to the candle consultant to how they sell the items.
And sometimes certain consultants just do not have what it takes.
But we all need to make a living and Its nice that these parties take place usually in the evening where moms
can make a little bit of spending money.
Stacey
July 11th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
96First of all, if I were you….you say you hate Direct Sales companies? So, what in the heck are you doing going to one of these parties? If you don’t like them….I have a suggestion:
DON’T GO! Simple as that. I am a Senior Consultant for BeautiControl. The first thing that I say to my guests is that if you do not like the products and how they work for you, simply do not buy them.
But, most of all, I guess that I come from a state, town, city, etc. that you do not BACKSTAB your friends and go home and write a STUPID BLOG about how upset you were at the party. And, I bet that you were the one at the “chip bowl” all night being the guest that doesn’t buy anything yet eat and drink all you can!
Enough said. And, remember, you CAN and SHOULD turn down a Direct Sales invite the next time you recieve one. Simple~~~DON’T GO!!!!!
winnie
July 19th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
97So what do u think the department stores are doing to u! Atleast that way your friend that is hosting a show ,gets something she wants in return instead of giving it to already very RICH department stores. Look at it this way maybe she will support you when its your turn to have something she doesn’t agree with!!!!
Karen
July 21st, 2007 at 12:45 am
98I totally adore Partylite. I have been to literally 100’s of parties and I have always had a great time…It’s not the company that’s the problem it’s the sales people. If you have a pushy rep…It’s like dealing with the phone company. They will try to sell you the apple spice version of a long distance plan! It stinks I know. It just depends on the person. I’m sorry if you were burnt (no pun intended) by the reps. Try not to get a bias view of things because if it.
Pat
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:11 pm
99I agree with Justin. Believe me, after a party most people are shrugging their shoulders as they say “I just bought some stupid—–” Recently I was asked by a co-worker if I would look at her catalog (Partylite Candles) and asked if I would like to order something.She said she was to have a party in a month but didn’t invite me. So I wouldn’t even know what these items smelled or looked like. But I thought- sure I”ll look,there’s may be something interesting. She went on and on about how she could get $200. worth of candle stuff if she sells several hundred dollars and gets others to host,but she added that her mom bought a large expensive candle stand and it looked cheap, one of her items broke easily, and how expensive items were ,yadayada…(Not a good saleperson but she was honest) Anyway I looked through the catalog at least 5 times and didn’t see any items that wouldn’t be on a shelf in a “Big Lots” store for a few dollars. The prices in the catalog were ridiculous! One could purchase high end crystal candle holders for half the price at large dept. stores. So did I want to buy 1 doz. votive ( all the same scent)which was the cheapest item? I didn’t even know if the scent was nice. Yes, one does feel uncomfortable saying that they do not like any of the items,especially if they are family members or neighbors and if the hostess is just tickled pink by the thought of her party and this $200 worth of junk, I mean gifts. I think she should just have her little get together and then pass around a hat and we could all donate so she could buy something really nice at the store. Or she could hold a small wine and cheese party and her guests would bring her a gift. Probably nicer gifts than are in that catalog. IF these items were reasonably priced it would be cool, but THEY ARE NOT.Sellers and Consultants are temporarilly delusional…I met many, years after they stopped their business and they would say how the company was a rip-off. Funny many were in another similar business.They are all excited about the money. Justin , after reading your opinion I feel honest with myself. Tomorrow I will hand her the catalog book back and nicely say there was nothing appealing to me. And the above consultants will now all be chanting” yes , yes , see you don’t HAVE to buy anything.” This is true but it still feels uncomfortable.
Amanda
July 27th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
100There are nothing wrong with direct selling businesses, it is just that business like anything else. Everyone needs to make a living. You cannot generalize that all direct selling businesses suck. It depends on the quality of product and consultant. I enjoy going to parties and don’t feel I need to buy something I don’t want. I take responsiblity for my own spending habits and choices.
jUDY WALDEN
August 4th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
101I HAVE TWO LOVELY BLACK SCONCES AND ONE HAS A BROKEN SHADE AND THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMPANY SAID THAT I WAS OUT OF LUCK BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER CARRIED THE SHADES. THE ITEM WAS NOT EXACTLY CHEAP AND IT GRIPES MY— THAT I CANNOT REPLACE THE SHADE. HOME INTERIOR DECOR COMPANY KEEPS THIER COMPANY IN STOCK FOR YEARS. NO MORE PARTYS FOR ME! JUDY
Ben Townsend
August 5th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
102I just read a bunch of krap about “Justin” not having been made to go to this party numerous times with great lines like “nobody held a gun to your head” or “nobody MADE you buy a candle” or “If you dont like the catalog(ue) DONT OPEN IT!!!!”
Well, let me be the Devil’s Advocate for just a second: Can’t the same argument be made on “Justin”s behalf??? If you don’t LIKE what he wrote click on some other site..
Cathie
August 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
103Wow, I love that there’s so much postive response to the original post. Justin really got everyone talking. I wonder if that was the original intent. Well, anyway, my thanks to you Justin. This blog helped increase my sales. Yes, I too am a PL consultant. For about 5 years. I’ve run into similar situations with some people I’ve met. I’ve gotten a few of my best hostesses and customers as a result. After reading about 50 posts I decided that I just had to share my thoughts too.
FYI: I just got a new customer, who referred me to your blog.
That’s what I love about the USA. We can shop with whom we like and spend our money how we wish as well as voice our opinions without retribution. And fortunately, for all of us in this county there are many companies, just like Partylite. Where you can decide where, when, and how much to work. I don’t know about your job, but before PL I couldn’t say that. So this is my belief. Shop where you want and with whom you want afterall it’s your $$. Everyone percieves value differently.
For me I’ve been burning Partylite candles since 1999, after we had to have our ducts cleaned due to our huge consumtion of candles from those other retailers. The black soot was being redeposited throughout our home. I’d just as soon not have to pay that bill again. Now that’s value!!!
Thanks again Justin for allowing all of us to share our wonderful and not so wonderful experiences with you and for the free advertising in Google :)
Isabeau
August 20th, 2007 at 3:47 am
104I have been to a few PL parties in the past and bought a few items here and there…although nothing major. I must say I have been pleased with everything I purchased. My favorite scent is the Peppermint (which is probably now retired, or either only available around Christmas). While the Peppermint fragrance is not overpowering, it does fill the room with a nice, clean scent. The candles I like…the decorative pieces I can do without. I am not the kind of person to feel pressured into doing something. If I don’t want to purchase something, then I don’t. My friends know me well enough to know this. I recently attended a “Southern Living” party at which I bought ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Justin, I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but don’t ALLOW anyone make you feel pressured to buy. At the same time, you could and should be polite when you decline. There’s no reason for going off on a tirade for one bad experience. May be you should take the lady up on her offer for free candles and give the company a 2nd chance before badmouthing any further!
Bianca
August 20th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
105Wow… people are really blowing things out of proportion and missing the point here!
I’d just like to say that direct sales can guilt guests into purchasing things, although this isn’t to say the guilt is intentional. It’s hard to say no and not come off as a jerk if a friend invites you to a direct sales party. And then when you arrive at that party you do feel a sense of obligation to help out the host by purchasing something. You don’t want to look like a cheapskate and you want your friend to get whatever spiffy host items they can so, even though you know your friend/co-worker won’t stop talking to you if you don’t get anything, you feel you really OUGHT buy something.
You can’t compare the direct sales experience to the retail experience either. Target or Best Buy isn’t my friend… I don’t feel a sense of obligation to a store to help them out, but I sometimes DO feel that sense of obligation to friends who throw direct sales parties. Purposeful or not, direct sales parties do have a sense responsibility to purchase in them. There’s an emotional aspect to direct sales that retail stores don’t have, which I feel is some of the initial complaint here.
Direct sales aren’t all bad. The parties can be a fun way to socialize, the promotional giveaways can be a good way to try out a product, with the right product it can be an easy way to work part-time with hours you choose, and they’re nice and convenient when you actually know you want the product. However, any direct salesperson who doesn’t realize that there is an emotional aspect to this type of sales and this makes saying “no” and not buying anything more difficult than in other buying situations is kidding themselves.
Jaci
August 20th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
106Justin, you are so right. I worked as a PartyLite consultant last year, and while it was easy money for me, I felt like an annoying, pushy salesperson at every show. I’m used to working retail and working for commission, but direct sales is another breed altogether. Consultants are coached to push hostesses to invite as many warm bodies as possible and harass friends and co-workers to buy, buy, BUY! The hostesses end up doing all the work. Think about it, PartyLite doesn’t have to pay rent for stores or mall shops, salaries for employees, or anything a normal store pays for. Crap, they even make their consultants buy the catalogs! The CUSTOMER ends up paying for the consultant’s salary, the hostess’ “free” gifts, and paychecks for everyone connected with PartyLite. $14 for a box of tealights??? Please.
Yes, Justin, PartyLite is hoping you will go to a party and feel pressured to buy like everyone else and help make the hostess sales goal. If they didn’t want people to feel pressured to buy or host a party, they would sell their candles in a department store like other manufacturers.
But, their whole pyramid scheme may soon crumble with the popularity of Ebay. Lots of consultants are selling candles at cost on ebay and milking PartyLite for bonus money at the same time, and for legal reasons PartyLite can’t figure out who they are and stop them. More and more people buy their candles from Ebay and not from their precious parties, so soon that company and other direct sales companies will collapse.
For all the consultants out there, get a real job! If you put half the effort into a lucrative career as you put into direct sales, you’d be a lot happier.
al
August 21st, 2007 at 2:04 pm
107your a fuckin idiot
maybe grow up and get a job so you can afford some nice things in life
I wonder what your upstanding profession is
Wendy
August 29th, 2007 at 10:39 pm
108Every vendor will tell you they have a great product – better than the best – but we all know that’s not possible. As a consumer, we all need to make a choice – where to buy and what product to buy. We have choices – online, direct-sales, retail stores. It’s your responsibility to decide where to buy something.
As a guest at any home show (or in any sales situation) you need to be in control. If you’re easily pressured by sales people or marketing techniques then stay away from high-pressure sales situations – home parties just may not be for everyone – personally, I know which parties I will and will not attend – based on my own personal preferences and how much extra cash I have on hand for consumable products.
As a past consultant for several direct-sales companies, I know how these companies work, and for the most part I believe they offer “goods” that are of decent to high quality. Of course you’ll always find direct-sales products that are not what you wanted (this can happen anywhere) or a sales person that is awful (happens to me all the time at the retail stores in the area). Overall, I think most of direct-sales companies are okay….because I understand them and I’m realistic in what I expect from them.
Personally, I’m confident enough in myself, and my ability to make choices, that as a consumer I know which companies I would or would not become involved with (as a consumer or sales person). We can all choose to purchase products in any form we want. I think that in all this, we have to understand ourselves, you need to know if you’re they type of consumer that simply wants to buy a product or if you’re the type of consumer that wants to buy an experience – and this can change for all of us depending on the product at hand.
Keep this in mind….Starbucks took a simple product and turned it into an experience that consumers were willing to pay hundreds of times the cost for…..how brilliant is that! I know that as a former direct-sales person, and as a current retail sales person, turning a product into and experience is exactly why I’ve been sucessful in sales. If a consumer only wants a product they will find a “cheap” way to purchase it – and that’s okay. However, when a consumer wants an “experience” then they will often pay more for the exact same product because of the experience and perceived value of that experience….just something to think about.
Mrs G
August 30th, 2007 at 3:57 am
109Well, I have been a very satisfied Partylite customer for nearly a year now. And Justin, I would probably ask your GP to refer you to an ear, nose and throat specialist. If you cannot smell Partylite candles, you’ve got something wrong with your olfactory system. I’m a teacher and I burn the aroma melts at school because it relaxes my students. And it brings people into my room from the breezy corridor outside because they want to know what that beautiful smell is. I agree with the many, many, many others who asserted this: if you don’t want to buy anything from a party, don’t attend it. And I hope you find something in life that DOES make you happy! My best blessings to you.
Europe
August 31st, 2007 at 4:02 am
110Yes, this is a really silly blog!
Yes, seems like PL is not just a religion but fulfils the criteria for a cult! (Believe and pay, so some gurus get rich.)
Firstly, learn to write English (oops sorry, American), then
JUST THROW A PARTY!!!!
Why does there have to be a sell? Wouldn’t your friends and family come otherwise?!
Get some real, 100% natural, wonderful smelling beeswax candles (or make your own) at a fraction of the price.
ENJOY.
Thanks Justin, could you do the same for Tupperware? That is another totally overpriced and superfluous product! Funny how all this comes from oh-so-free (hahaha) America :O
Darlene
September 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm
111Kaz,
I was a consultant for Passion Parties and it was not about the purfect body type but more along the same lines as Plite. We educate men and women on how to keep thier romance alive and educate them about sex. I was looking at Plite as a oppertunity, but now I am not sure with all the negativity I see out there. They are expesive for most people in my area, but I only want to sell candles and nothing else for now so I guess I will keep looking.
Kristi
September 5th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
112I am a PartyLite consultant. First of all, yes, Blythe does own many candle companies. Second of all, YOU ARE WRONG, that you can purchase the same candles cheaper. PartyLite has it’s own manufactoring plant and NO OTHER CANDLES BESIDES PARTYLITE CANDLES ARE MADE THERE!!!! Yes, you can purchase candles cheaper but I promise you-you get what you pay for. Also, to reiterate what many other people said, no one forced you to come, to shop or to buy. We are no pressure and a very ethical company that stands behind all it’s products. I understand you having a “bad taste in your mouth” over direct selling companies. Many out there have given a bad name to direct selling. Please don’t generalize or stereo type us all because of a few bad apples. It sounds as if your mind is made up. I’m sorry for whatever happened to leave you so bitter. Just know that this is an extremely high quality product and company. Maybe after you work through some of your anger issues you can give us a try:)
Jamie J
September 6th, 2007 at 10:38 am
113I WAS in partylite sales and the truth is you can get the same or very similar products elsewhere for a fraction of the cost. Like anything else you are paying for the name. This is why I stoped selling I dont belive in over charging for low quality products. I never did very well as a consultant and I was always told it was because I did not push my sales enough. Well, sorry but I belive that a great product will and always does sell itself.
jennifer
September 9th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
114i think the person that wrote this was just in a bad mood about something and needed to vent and chose the candle company to lash out on. the so called “group 2″ people that aren’t benefiting, they choose not to benefit. you could decide at the party to throw your own and then you would be in “group 1″ or you could even sell the stuff yourself and benefit even more. if you don’t want to buy a candle then don’t buy it. it’s a candle, it’s not like you are choosing not to give money to a helpless child or refusing to help feed a hungry homeless person. it’s not the end of the world if you don’t buy something at one of these parties. you should just go and enjoy spending time with family and friends and hey if you see something you like what is the harm in purchasing it? do you think that you’ve given in to the whole “sceme”? no, you just like the candle and wanted to buy it. i think you are thinking way too serious about something that is not worth your time being upset over. you need to think a little more positively on life and not always be out looking for the things that you think are rediculous.
Allison
September 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
115Wow. Funny thread. Kinda scary, too. People who love PartyLite all sound like they’re brainwashed.
Phoenix
September 11th, 2007 at 10:47 am
116Jaci is right,
Partylite consultants are selling HUGE lots of candles for cost. Through ebay you can obtain these candles at cheaper prices than tealights at discount chain stores. Ebay is the way to go for parylite candles.
Me
September 12th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
117Justin,
Can you please right a blog about Longaberger, Pampered Chef, Arbonne……
These companies all “prey” on a select group of people (lower income stay-at-home moms trying to make “play money”) and brainwash them into thinking that the product they are representing is completely worth the exorbatant prices the company charges. Every consultant that has replied to this post has re-confirmed my aforementioned statement.
Partylite does offer terrific candles, but so do many other companies. Why disagree so antagonistically to a mere internet blog?
The hostess is not just handed money to go shopping with. Typically this “free money” comes from the money her friends/coworkers/family have begrudgingly spent on products they feel obligated to buy. Say what you will about never pressuring people into buying, but I, as do the majority of people in society, feel an obligation to buy because of a pre-existing loyality to the hostess- and the upper management of DC companies know that this “guilt trip phenomenon” exists. They rely on this form of marketing to make their millions. After all, don’t most hostesses invite as many people as they can to a party to increase their sales, thereby increasing their “free money”. Most educated people know that this is the concept behind direct marketing schemes.
David- Amen! Pyramid scheme indeed.
Bianca and Staci- Well said, very eloquent!
jamie
September 14th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
118Ebay is not the way to go…excess shipping… no money back if something goes wrong… half the time you don’t get your product.
Now for the thread… PL has a wonderful product, in fact last years sales were over a billion dollars. I am sorry that you were not satisfied with the product but it happens, you can’t please everyone all the time.
Now for the so called “pushy” consultants, yes there are some that are pushy, please stop if you are. The product will sell itself, trust me. I have passed around books but have never once passed around an order form. If they want to order they will ask. I am okay with no and so should other people.
If you go out for a wonderful dinner and the waitress asks you if you want dessert and you reply “no”, do you think she goes into the back and cries??? no way
I am never offended if someone doesn’t show up to a party or if they don’t order anything.
Some people love the product, some people don’t,don’t ever buy something that you don’t truly want.
Kimberley
September 14th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
119Well I certainly see your point. I am a PartyLite Consultant but I also work a fulltime job. My husband hates PartyLite he says the candles don’t smell and they are “retarded” haha but I still stand by the products all the way. I was a Yankee Candle fan,but I do see the difference in quality between the two.Yankee Candles are a bit more scented but Our candles burn more cleanly. All though at first I felt the same way except I didn’t buy because I couldn’t afford it.So finally I tried Hostessing,then eventually started seeling. I DO NOT shove PartyLite on people..I hate the consultants who are pushy and call constantly. Its annoying and I hang up on those people also…lol So you are very much entitled to your opinion! Thank you for sharing it!
Lynn
September 15th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
120I have been buying Partylite products since 1991. The Partylite company has a wonderful, top of the line product. (I love to shop in better department stores where you’d have to go to find comparable quality) You can’t judge the accessories by the catalog… You have to go to a show to see and feel the quality of this product, to appreciate it. Then, and only then, if you don’t see anything you can’t live without, don’t buy. SO DON’T BE SWAYED BY ANYBODY ELSES OPINION… GO TO A SHOW AND MAKE YOUR OWN OBSERVATIONS.
p.s. when you buy a dozen votives, you can choose two fragrances and if you’re at a party, you can smell the fragrance organizer. which incidently is no different than what you’ll get when you order yours.
Linda
September 18th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
121I think Justin is right on the money! I agree with him 100%
Michele
September 19th, 2007 at 7:52 am
122Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts. I believe that PartyLite is a great company with quality products. They are no more expensive than other companies out there. They are not trying to scam anyone they are only doing a business. Just like any other business, you have a choice to enter the store or not. They have the highest quality wax and products. Yes you can burn other candles, but they will leave you with black on your walls and holders. Someone posted that you can get PartyLite on ebay, buyer beware! Plus really look at the price and then add shipping, some products actually cost you more in the end. Hve a show and you can get it FREE! PartyLite is not a pyramid scheme. Pyramids you can never surpass the one who brought you in, PartyLite you can climb the ladder and pass over the person who brought you in at any time. I am a consultant in Massachusetts, and have been for 3 years, I am a Unit Leader. I train all of my people to be no pressure sales. With PartyLite there is no pressure, the product sells itself. People who have tons of PartyLite still buy. They may only buy the candles, but they buy. The difference with PartyLite and other companies is that PartyLite candles are a consumable product, people will come back for more to replace what they have used. That is why the consultant program is so appealing. You will have a repeat business, unlike other companies, you can only wear so much jewelery.
I could go on forever, but it boils down to this.. someone had a bad experience and is voicing their fustration. But that fustration should have been directed to the consultant who did the party. And if favorable results were not received, then they should have contacted PartyLite directly. PartyLite will take care of concerns asap! Just remember you are dealing with Independant Consultant, they are their own boss, so you need to know who you are working with. Posting on something like this only feeds negativity. These negative thoughts will discourage someone who has never been to a PartyLite show from going and making their own opinions. For all of you who have bad feeling towards PartyLite, you need to work with a different Consultant or you need to talk to PartyLite because all consultants are not pushy or provide terrible customer service. I provide excellent customer service. I too am a consumer and I treat people like I want to be treated. I welcome anyone to email me@: candlelisious@msn.com or go to my website to see what PartyLite is really about. http://www.partylite.biz/candlelisious
Amanda
September 19th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
123I agree with you Justin..I was once sucked into it and became a consultant..Not ONLY did I get sucked out of MORE money than they PAID me…the products were way to expensive and I was not about to sell it to my FAMILY for full price when i got it for 50% off…anyone who does that to their family is SICK and should be ASHAMED…However..I kept my starter kit for myself since I felt I earned it, and my candles scented up my whole house..So I dont get how you didnt smell it, but you could be right..depends on the candle..Partylite is a RIP OFF and i cant wait until they are shut down.
Sue Rafter
September 20th, 2007 at 7:28 am
124When I first read your blog I was fascinated. To be honest this is the first blog I’ve read. I use my computer all the time, but I’ve never had the time to just sit and read. I read all the responses too! I found some of them to be humorous, both the positive and negative comments. I did think that it was beginning to sound “cult like,” but that just proves most of their points. Not all consultants are like the “one” you encountered, in fact, most (judging by the responses) have a completely different approach to their parties.
I’d like to address some of your concerns and comments. First of all, when I go shopping I go into a store and sometimes they have what I need and sometimes they don’t. I don’t always buy something and I don’t feel guilty when I don’t.
Now, if I were going to open a new restaurant, I would probably call my friends and family and ask them to come support my new business. I might even ask them to bring their friends or tell them about it. I’d probably do the same if it was a store or even a different type of business. (Sound familar?) And, if my friend or family member opened their own business I would probably support them too.
I also think it’s important that people don’t judge “all” (people or consultants) by “one” that obviously didn’t do a very good job. I recently visited a Payless Shoe Store. I was buying a pair of shoes for my granddaughter and asked the sales clerk a simple question. Her response was extremely rude. I told her that I thought she was rude, but I still bought the shoes. Will I never go to a Payless Shoe store ever again? Of course I will. I probably won’t go to that sales clerk, but just because she was rude doesn’t mean I should stop shopping at Payless.
Is PartyLite expense? Compared to what? There’s lots of cars out there to choose from. It’s hard to compare a Lexus to a Saturn. Both are cars, both will get you where you’re going. From the outside, a lot of the cars even look a lot alike. But, we both know that some cars are more expensive that others. A lot of the difference is in things you cannot see driving down the street next to them. They both even breakdown occasionally. Just because you spend more doesn’t mean you will never have a problem. And, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to take my vehicle back for the same repair or how long it took to get it fixed, so should this be so different.
To be honest with you I am a PartyLite consultant. Guess you probably figured that out already. But your opinion really didn’t bother me. I have learned that you really can’t make everybody happy. (God knows I’ve tried! – I mean it he really knows) But for those people who read your blog, I hope they will at least give PartyLite and other direct selling business the opportunity to let them form their own opinion. It’s okay to support your friends and family. We have been trained (not brainwashed) to try to bring a relaxing and informative demonstration to our guests. We not only offer them quality candles and products, but we demonstrate different ways to use them in your home, how to change the pieces to fit their decor or use them in different rooms or different times of the year. At our parties we’re actually looking for people who “like” candles and decorating. We teach them about candle care. Honestly, I’ve never had anyone in a store tell me how to take care of my candles so that I will truly get my money’s worth out of a candle. I’ve thrown away a lot of candles (not PartyLite) where the wick has sunk down in and couldn’t be lit again, or it split down the sides. I’ve had to scrub down my walls because of the black soot created by other candles. Nobody at the store told me about their candles or how to take care of them. Nobody showed me where to put my candle holders or how to change them up! Should I get paid for taking my time and gas to come to your house (or your friend’s house) and share all this information with you? Do you really mind if your friend gets something extra because you found something you wanted and bought it? As I said before, if the store doesn’t have what I want I don’t buy something else just because I feel guilty.
And let me tell you, MY FEET HURT when I was done shopping. It’s much easier to sit on the couch and look through the book and I don’t spend as much on gas going from store to store. And I do get to spend time with my friends. Sometimes I’m just so busy I don’t take the time to spend time with them. Having a party allows me the opportunity to do that and with my busy schedule I can see more people at one time.
Well technology is a great tool. I want to thank you for the opportunity to tell people more about PartyLite. The direct selling industry is a wonderful opportunity for men and women to have their own business, to work from their home and be around when they are needed for family and obligations. Do they work hard for what they earn? You bet! Probably harder then most. They are much more motivated because they are responsible for making their business work. Just because I don’t have a building (store) doesn’t make me any less of a business than Target or Walmart. I worked in the corporate world for 35 years. I gave up time with my family and worked so many hours trying to prove that I was the best employee and really cared about the places and people I worked for and with. It really didn’t matter when it all came down to it. I was just an employee like all the rest of them. Some that didn’t care as much as I did and certainly didn’t work as hard. Now I work hard and I’m the one that benefits. Well, my family benefits too. I have more time for them.
I wish I could meet some of your readers. I hope they take the time to form their own opinions. Just because Justin didn’t like how the meal was prepared, doesn’t mean you won’t!
Sue in Southern California
http://www.partylite.biz/doitwithcandles
Paul
September 20th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
125Wow,
It’s really creepy how all these PartyLite people come out of the woodwork, offering to do a party for you, send you free samples….Sound like a pack of drug dealers!
Lay off the guy he didn’t like your stuff, just accept it.
Also, just google “PartyLite and SCAM” . Consumer Reports has a slew of complaints on this company which by the way sold a Billion Dollars worth of wax…how many of you hostesses are getting anything clost to 6 figures.
Face it this guy called you out on what these parties are all about….pity for my friend/relative that got caught up in a MULTI LEVEL MARKETING SCAM, so I’ll buy some over priced wax.
Read for yourselves.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/misc/partylite.html
Tam
September 20th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
126I dealt Partylite in SC for a few months…It was drummed into my head to hit people up to buy more and more, whether they wanted it or not. I felt horrible about and didn’t make much money because I refused to pressure people into buying things they didn’t necessarily want. I finally quit altogether. And the monthly meetings…It was like a huge cheerleader convention! >.
Cami
September 21st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
127I am a Consultant for PartyLite… And I LOVE their products!!! I sell partyLite because I would never burn any other candles in my home. I figured if I spend money on the product I might as well get a discount, as well as sell this awsome product to other people and make them believe in it too. I read some horrible stories on line about Consultant and Customers getting ripped off, I have never had a problem, nor have my customers or fellow Consultants ever had a problem. Keep this in mind if you have heard any of the bad rumors.
LOVE PARTYLITE!!!!!!
Amber
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:07 pm
128Has anyone recently googled Partylite? There’s an interesting website about customer complaints from that place. I’ve had a few experiences from that….place. Why the hell do you get TAXED for SHIPPING & Handling?! From now on…I’m buying crap through e-bay….much more for your dollar.
Shanda
September 27th, 2007 at 9:49 am
129I actually like Party Lite products, but they are definitely too expensive, so I order something like every 2 years. But recently an old friend from way back in High School contacted me and stated she was having a “GHOST” party through the internet. I told her that I was”unable to attend”. She proceeded to berate and belittle me through the email and I subsequently gave in becase her birthday was around the corner. The whole moral of this story is…. women are just plain catty when it comes to to stupid crap like this. All the hostesses want to do is accumulate points to accumulate more crap that thye will never use!! And why is this stuff so important that it can possibly ruin friendships? Well, it’s just not that serious!!!
roud PL Consultant
September 28th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
130Sorry to Justin and all of the others who bash PartyLite and other Direct Sales Companies! I for one have been a successful consultant and leader with Partylite for 9 years and have been able to offer my customers a quality product and a high level of customer service thanks to PartyLite’s ethical business practices. At the same time, I have been able to support my family with an incredible income! Those of you who bash either never shop in stores, malls, or catalogs or maybe you just don’t realize the marketing tactics all around you that “pressure” you into spending money you may or may not have intended or could afford to spend. The bottom line… thank God we live in a country where Capitalism exists and everyone has the opportunity to be all that they can be and make the choice to spend or not to spend, to make as much money as they choose and make their own dreams come true, and decide for themselves whether to succomb to “pressures” to spend. You know your own limits… stay within those limits and quit blaming others. Take 100% responsibility for yourself and your choices and the resulting outcomes!
Have a great day and be happy!
CandleGeni
September 28th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
131Justin, just lemme tell ya..you get what you pay for. With the ‘cheaper priced’ candles you get soot, smoke, unhealthy by-products of combustion such as formaldehyde, as well as wasted wax, which equals wasted money–which is something you seem to be able to relate to.
I was not a fan of direct selling, and I have been a consultant for this company for almost 2 yrs–I have been able to buy a new car and send my children to the schools they deserve. I have done this not at the expense or victimization of my customer. They realise the value and quality of the products I sell, and request to have parties and buy products. I’m not into hard selling and I have a successful business. My customers know and love these products. They want ‘em–I provide ‘em–and it’s legal–we do still live in America, don’t we(land of capitalism and enterprise)?
Why do you think people still buy Mercedes and Platinum jewelry–even though they could buy a Yugo or gold-tone–they want the best and I am very proud, happy and successful in my endevour to provide them with the best.
Justin, let me ask you this–just how much do you make do you go around telling everyone? I’ll have you know I always tell the host/guest how much I make at the show, because I want them to know they are capeable of making money–living the American dream, just like me, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet(who is a very wealthy PHILANTROPIST, and who owns Pampered Chef–a direct selling company)
Perhaps you should hold your criticism for something you know about.
G. Hurtt aka CandleGeni
Cathy
October 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 pm
132Wow, I was just invited to a Party Lite party and decided to check online to see what they had available and came across this blog. I happen to be (very happily) involved in another direct sales business. I would just like to reiterate that merchandising involves buyers and sellers. Sellers make money from the buyers, duh….that’s the way it always works…whether you buy a hamburger at McDonald’s or a bag of kitty litter at Target. The only difference is that a home party is based in someones home, since there is no retail location, the seller rewards the homeowner by offering free merchandise.
A company that is a member of the DSA (Direct Selling Association) has stringent standards to live up to and they are not pyramid schemes as someone mentioned. If I sign on a new consultant I do make a commission off from their sales, but they have the opportunity to surpass me and earn more…definitely not a pyramid scheme!
One more interesting tidbit, THERE ARE MORE WOMEN EARNING SIX FIGURES IN DS THAN IN ANY OTHER INDUSTRY! How empowering!!!
LORI
October 2nd, 2007 at 1:24 pm
133I TOO ,AM A CONSULTANT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURE FEELINGS! MY LEADER IS VERY PUSHY ON BOOKINGS & RECRUITING! I ONLY SELL ENOUGH TO STAY ACTIVE, I’M IN MORE FOR THE HALF PRICE PURCHASES & CONSL. SPECIALS, FOR MY OWN USE! MY FAMILY LOVES THE CANDLES AS WELL AS SEVERAL FRIENDS! I ONLY MENTION THERE ARE BROCHURES IN THEIR FOLDERS IF THEY’RE INTERESTED! I’M SORRY FOR ALL OF YOUR BAD EXPERIENCES ,I’VE BEEN THERE MYSELF ON OTHER OCCASSIONS!I WOULD STAND BEHIND PL PRODUCTS, i’VE ONLY BEEN A CONS FOR A YEAR BUT I’VE BEEN BUYING FOR 12 YEARS. THEY REALLY ARE THE BEST I’VE FOUND IN MY TOWN!
Kelly McE
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:02 pm
134WOW! Lol, I dont know who all will read this, I gave up somewhere in the middle lol BUT it just sounds to me like Justin got a really bad pushy consultant who offered TERRIBLE customer service. That would leave a bad taste in anyone’s mouth.
I think that PL offers great opportunities for consultants, hostesses, and guests alike but it may not be for everyone.
For the person that said they sat through an hour of the consultant talking about hosting and becoming a consultant: OMG!! I offer it always in my demo but I just touch base on it and if you have questions, you can approach me after the demo. My demo never lasts longer than an hour and most of that is decorating ideas, showing and passing around the products, and teaching you how to burn your candles properly. It really sucks that there are consultants out there doing these things to you people!!
I was just told saturday that PartyLite received a call about me from one of my guests saying that I was the best consultant she’s ever had in her 10 yrs of PL experiences and that she had so much fun. She called me the next day and booked a party! These parties SHOULD be fun and pressure-free!!
http://www.partylite.biz/KellyMcEathron
Kelly McE
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pm
135To Jaime a few posts up, just from reading your post it sounds like you didnt do well bc you didnt believe in the product, not bc you didnt push sales. Who is going to sell anything that they dont like? Customers pick up on that negativity. I am not pushy whatsoever at my parties and I do pretty well.
Deanna
October 9th, 2007 at 10:29 am
136Justin, whether or not you liked partylite, the way you handled this situation was so wrong. If you had such a horrible consultant, then call or write Partylite and let them know how bad she was. What you have done is pissed alot of women who love to get together with their friends. We all have things that we go to that we just don’t care about, but we go to support our family or friends. You of course weren’t directly invited to this event by your family member, it took a friend to invite you along. I just might have been a little pissed by my family member not inviting me personally, so I sure as heck wouldn’t have bought something to help her get some free stuff. Who cares if they got mad cause you didn’t buy something. Do you think they would have said anything? I just really wonder is this what all of this is really about? You got left out of the family loop, so you are going to bad mouth the party you would have been left out of if not for a friend. That is really too bad, because you are missing out on some really great products, that helps put food on the table for families all around the world.
Enough said.
abby
October 11th, 2007 at 2:16 am
137The partylight rep was asked to be at your friends house, and you did choose to go!!
Becky
October 14th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
138haha your like famous from this I quit reading after the first 25 or so posts but if you want smell try the honeydew 3 wick amazing smell fills your entire house for about 400 hours :)
mine smells so strong you don’t even need to be burning it to get the smell.
also maybe try the reed defusors lots of new scents and you choose the strength of it :)
good luck and hopefully you don’t give up because of a few bad consultants we aren’t all that way :)
katheryn
October 15th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
139i just want to say .that partlite candle are best prouduts out there.i can saythat because i have done four shows and i love stuff. and out of my four shows .i am how sell partlite candle.and you do make good money .so i dont areegd with some of you poeple.but ones that are selling goof lucky.
Jo Thomas
October 17th, 2007 at 5:29 am
140I am a partylite consultant in the UK and at no point are our parties boring and our clients are under no obligation to buy anything and what is more the hostess can actually earn money herself if the takings from the party are over £165 ($300). The parties are fun and you get to meet new people and when you are a consultant you can earn alot of money. The thing with partylite is that once you have a party that person will probably want another and then another because the candles and accessories change from session to season. Partylite is a great company and I am not saying that because I work for them, their standard and quality is exceptional and if I wasn’t a consultant I would buy all my candles from them.
Stacie
October 17th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
141Wow…..first of all, if someone has no intention of buying anything, there is NOTHING wrong with telling the hostess that ahead of time. And then either go and have fun, or skip it altogether. Just because you’re invited, doesn’t mean that you’re obligated to buy OR attend.
I’ve been a Partylite customer for 6 years – I don’t care WHO sells the candles, even Illuminations don’t burn as cleanly, last as long, or smell as nice as Partylite’s. Illunimations is the only close 2nd in quality & value. As for the accessories…..yes, you can get some similar things at Target & elsewhere, and I have, however, there is a huge difference in quality, and not much difference in price.
When I’ve held PL shows…I’ve told my guests ahead of time that I do NOT want them buying anything unless they absolutely need or want it, and I’ve told my consultant that as well. She’s always made the parties fun, and the guests come because they know the quality is there.
I’ve actually been so impressed with every single thing I’ve bought from Partylite, that I recently signed up as a consultant. And I will never, ever pressure anyone to buy.
Arlene
October 17th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
142I agree with 137. If you are invited and don’t want to purchase something don’t go.
Nic
October 27th, 2007 at 8:39 pm
143just trying the relish
Aussie girl down under
October 30th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
144I ordered from a partylite party 7 weeks ago and I am still waiting for a pack of votives that are for a present with a candle holder! I keep asking when they are turning up but they are coming from usa so I might get them by xmas! They are expensive, but nice for a gift, just would like them when I paid for them 7 weeks ago!!
tas
October 30th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
145Well, I didn’t read all of the posts but it only took a few to get me interested in the debate. I have been purchasing partylite candles and candle holders for about seven years. Interesting that someone said they have no smell. These are the best smelling while burning candles I have ever found (i did a lot of searching). Also, I had purchased a very expensive hurricane lamp as one of my first purchases and about a year ago my cat knocked it off the shelf and broke the bottom piece. This hurrican lamp is made out of crystal and was around fifty dollars. There is this new partylite consultant that attends the same church I do and I was purchasing some candles from her and in conversation mentioned the lamp to her. She asked if I still had it and offered to take it and find a replacement. I had no idea what its actual product name was but she hunted down a brand new one for me and I wasn’t charged a penny. PARTYLITE IS AWESOME!
shannon
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:40 pm
146I sell partylite and jafra while i work two jobs and go full time to school. At my parties we get wasted we never talk about the products i just leave the books and order forms out and if anyone is interested they will order i dont push anyone. I think the older generation of sellers are so wrapped up in the company that they tend to over due themselves and really make the guest irritable and ruine what could be a great time. P.S that is not my e mail i cannot give you my real identity. but i agree most of those parties suck. Not mine!
Hélène
November 6th, 2007 at 9:32 am
147hello all of you! (I’m french)
I found this post while I was surching informations about candles……
Don’t you see Justin is provocating you?
He hates partylite? let him hate…..
The more you will defend partylite the more he will hate!!!
It’s his own way to exprim anger.
In fact Justin, why are you in judgement like that?
what happened during the day( before your bad expérience about party lite) witch made you see all in “black”?
And have you really a nose?
Sorry I can’t help….it’s “french” humour….
personne n’oblige personne!!!!
bonne fin de journée
Hélène
(sorry for my bad english…..)
Lisa
November 6th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
148I am a Party Lite consultant and one of a kind it looks like. When I entered the company I had a plan not to bother anyone. Thats just how I do it. Taking the chances when people mention that they wish they could burn candles without sneezing or having them smoke up the walls, I mention to them I have some they can try (give them a sample and my number) usually they call back and ask me where I got them from then I tell them I sell them “they are customers” I’m not the type person to go make the business I like to let the business come to me. So after my 2nd year in the business I have three people that offer the items to family friends and co-workers then turn in an order when they are ready. They get the free stuff and I of course make 25% profit. No presure they all seem to come to me. The people that turn in shows for me usually turn one in a month. Most of the time the orders are $250 or more. So doing the math 25% of $250 is $62.50 per person. Total a month I make $187.50. If i wanted to I could make more but this buys my food for the month and thats and honest earning due to the way I do it, the product sells its self. So if you ever feel the need to purchase some party lite on your own terms pass me an e-mail and I will send you a book to view then we can chat. I give away gift to all persons that place orders along with their order. So I am a thankfull consultant. One of my best customers are online shoppers and they just take up orders from their friends. ( I like to call it a book show)
People like to work with me cause they know I’m not gonna push them into anything they just let me know when and what they would like to order. If you don’t trust me please don’t buy from me cause I am a southern girl born and raised with morals and my momma would kick my tail if I did anyone wrong about their orders. Trust is a big thing in my area its earned not just expected. Lisa Roush Here Thanks for your time.
Rainy
November 7th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
149Hi Justin
I think your experience at the Partylite Party was prejudiced from the beginning. You (male?) attended a party NOT because you were a friend and/or wanted to attend – but to ‘protect’ the guest that did want to attend.
You didn’t like the product, but your own guilt ‘made’ you buy something and then you were unhappy with being ‘forced’ into the purchase so you wouldn’t look like a slug.
I agree that many of the items are higher in price than what you can purchase in the stores. HOWEVER you don’t have to buy them at the party. Your choice.
Other than the unscented candles they sell, the candles all have a scent. Some are even WAY too potent. Yes, the scent is more obvious in the box they are stored in. When the individual candle is in a larger room, the scent is less powerful. Obvious. When the candle is burned, the scent is stronger. Sometimes it is TOO strong. If you find that is an issue, OMG! You can contact your consultant and trade it in, EVEN IF IT HAS BEEN BURNED!! Not something stores will do.
As far as your anger and disgust with home party businesses and the idea you can get the same, cheaper at the store….go ahead. The quality you get is inferior in comparison, but if it is quantity and price that is your goal, you win. Oh, but include in this the cost of your time you spent driving around to get the bargain, the gasoline used in this search, and all the other ‘un-needed’ items purchased – coffee/soda, fast food snack/meal and the other ‘bargains’ you purchased.
I am thinking that JUSTIN is a guy. I know plenty of men that purchase from NAPA trucks. They are a ‘business’ that goes to where men work in automotive care. Is this just as insulting to you?
Or does it annoy you that women get together to enjoy their own company without men? And, OMG, spend their OWN money on something THEY like?
Too bad you had a bad experience. You get what you expect.
As for the consultants offering a better experience for this joker, don’t wast your time. He has already made up his mind.
covenant
November 8th, 2007 at 4:44 am
150I was told that partylite and Colonial are owned by the same company: Blyth but that the candles are made differently (Colonial are the economy version) therefore that quality of the burn and scent (none overlap) are different. I have always found partylite candles excellent. Tealights and votives always burn every drop of wax and pillars always burn down to the bottom. I have thrown so many cheaper candles away it is unbelievable. Some tealights have even burnt a hole down the middle of the wax – heck they aren’t even big! Never with partylite though. The scents are amazing – my cupboard where I keep my partylite candles always smells lovely and my room smells for days even without burning the candle. Once I light a candle it scents the room and often more than 1 room. Their other products; reed diffusers last for months and the room smells delicious for all of those months. No more stuffy and bad smells. It’s sad you have had such a negative reaction to the ‘party’, but have you actually burnt any of partylites candles?
Heather
November 8th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
151I have been a Partylite customer, hostess and distributor. I no longer distribute or host, cuz I suck at it, but I’d buy Partylite candles over any other candles any day. Unless, of course, someone can tell me where else I can find candles whose wax doesn’t get hot enough to burn and they burn down to almost nothing, thereby not wasting half of what I spent on unburnable wax. Partylite candles are the only candles I have ever found that actually burn ALL the way down…every other candle I’ve ever burned wastes at least a third of the candle, including Yankee. I’d much rather spend $30 on a candle that burns completely than $30 on a candle that will only burn halfway. And I don’t need a party to do it. Just point me to someone I can buy from!!! lol
Hélène
November 10th, 2007 at 8:00 am
152Hello Justin!
thanks for your mail answer.
listen, i’m trying to become a tupperware consultant and what I see on the other side is not verry pretty.My manager doesn’t like customers, she only see “€uros” (dollars for you) when she looks at someone.I even wanted to ask her if she had friens for anything else that selling “tupperware”.
In Tupperware meetings, they tell us with a large smile, how to “seduce” people, how to sell, and people who drive me in this activity wants me to make money because they are interested in: the more I make money, the more they get very important free gifts they can also sell on eBay for example!!!!!!!!.
And as you write it in your blog, for the moment I only made money with my family or friends.
I feel like you feel; i’m not able to sell when I see what I see; it’s makes me sick…..
So I will let down this activity…….because I’m able to say “NO”
I will not say tupperware or partylite is awfull, I only say it doesn’t correspond to my way of life.
I’m not obliged to sell or buy any product (like partylite or tupperware), I’m the only responsable for that. I’m angry with myself because I said “yes” as you probably are with yourself because you didn’t say “no”.
I hoppe you will understand my english.
you can reproduce my mail on your blog if you want.
But I didn’t change my mind about good smelling of partilite candles……only smelling and quality!!!!!
Hélène
PS :I don’t understand “worth while” I’m french don’t forget…..can you explain with others words?
Did I hurt you?
Debski
November 11th, 2007 at 2:44 am
153Ooooh, creepy, the way all the perky sales people answered first, all sunshine and gooey goodness, like possessed Barbie dolls. Then of course, the preachy, faux-pitying crusaders condescendingly putting you in your place (it’s just an opinion on the internet, not a government bill) for decrying over-priced products sold in a fashion that only makes sense in the context of how it gets products sold… otherwise, how inefficient a method it is! Pardon the run-on sentences.
I have only been to one such party, for some sort of picture frames, and I went with the understanding that the girl giving it just needed the numbers there. If she was in fact just saying that and expecting me to come around and buy something anyway, well, she got what she asked for instead. I’ve gotten lots of invitations, though, and I do agree… just don’t go.
BUT the people saying these parties are just about… wait, let me back up there and see… “about having fun with friends and family” ugh. Well, I don’t buy such nonsense, no pun intended. I never thought for a second I was being invited to a sales party for social reasons. The very idea irritates me beyond measure. The paper says it’s a party for a product, and I’m supposed to be psychic and figure out that I’m snubbing them all by not going?
Nope, candle parties represent to me some of the worst things about my fellow females. The apparent inability to say what they mean or be straight with someone else, and the expectation that everyone is bloody psychic, and that every woman likes $40 candles.
Lillie
November 13th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
154I just managed to shake off a consultant from hell. She never took no for an answer. I started creating lies to get out of planning a party – like she was my mother!! Anyway, I like the candles. I just want to be a consumer and left alone. I have been lurking and shopping ebay. Partylite & Amway = Same diff.
Meredith (EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED)
November 14th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
155I’m not sure how I came across this site but it has been very entertaining. I too am a Partylite Consultant. I have been in the business on and off for 5-years. I love the product that is what keeps me in it. This year I went to Confrence in Houston and can honestly say my views of the comapny only got higher. They not only give back to their consultants but to the community. I too let the product sell it self. I love doing show and meeting all of these wonderful men and women!!!
I recently was introduced to MonaVie. The benefits of this amazing juice are like no other. Its 19 fruits and berriers blended together with the Acai (ah-sigh-ee) Berry being called the number one super food (as quoted on Oprah) I used to suffer from chronic headaches and shoulder pain – after two weeks of taking MonaVie I have had no symptoms.
Even though I love Partylite and their products – I now can endorse a product that actually has benefited my over all health. If anyone wants to know more please email me.
Meredith (Fort Lauderdale,Florida)
Elune
November 17th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
156A friend is hosting a party next week. I Googled the company and on the first page, three hits dealt with consumer complaints and lack of any corporate customer service. I will decline and warn her that she picked a lemon. All direct sales merchandise is overpriced, AND you are always at the mercy of the hostess/consultant during the event, but Tupperware and Pampered Chef stand behind their products and have functional corporate support.
Folks with a life (who aren’t desperate for cash) invite their friends over don’t try to sell them anything. Doh!
Folks who need cash will rationalize anything. See above for at least 100 examples.
A little basic science here for the “consultants”:
Carbon black, aka soot, is the normal by-product of combustion.
The toxic pigment lead is not spelled ‘led’.
Colors and fragrances are artificial additives.
If the guests don’t buy anything, you don’t make money. We can all do that math.
All DS companies are pyramid schemes (now known as “multi-level marketing”). Women make up >90% of the bottom tiers, but less than 10% of the top. How empowering…NOT.
The best value for candles is a Catholic supply store. No colors, no scents, no fancy shapes, but they burn long and clean. Oh – and no pressure to convert. :)
summerblue
November 21st, 2007 at 11:37 am
157ha – bet you never thought you’d have SO MANY replies. I am an ex-Partylite DL (those in the business know what that is).
I started when I LITERALLY had $10 to my name. Never could I have started a business without it costing a fortune, I didn’t have a fortune to spend. Too bad I had a terrible leader and eventually she wore me out and I stopped….Sterling Region (scary lady).
Hopefully those consultants here have better leaders – but it’s a great product and I still buy it!
NAOBunni
November 22nd, 2007 at 10:16 am
158I am a PL consultant because I love the products – the candles are handsdown the best I ever burned.
BUT…I hate the company with a passion. My “leader” is a joke. She is a liar and the bad thing about it is – there is nothing I can do about it.
I seldom have parties and there is NO selling at my parties, just candles and candle products to buy.
I give away gifts – and yea – so I don’t make much money – but I get to do something I really like (hang out with my friends and burn candles) =)
happy burning…
Maizie
December 5th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
159I was hoping to order some new Party lite candles. After reading these amusing, somewhat sad moments from strangers, I feel I must ponder this need for new candles. I just liked them because they didn’t spew crud all over and melted nicely. The disappearing wax works well for me. About the partys, I will have to say that there is pressure in the air that you there to buy. I don’t care what people think, yeah, you are having fun eating artichoke dip and drinking wine, but you try NOT buying something every time your invited. I told a pampered chef lady I was just here for the ride and she said “I’m sorry someone dragged you here if you weren’t interested in buying anything.” These consultants are on a job. They are there to sell. They aren’t there to hob knob and visit. Thanks for the site. Think I’ll go watch Used Cars.
Jeana
December 6th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
160I attended two Partylite candle parties in the past. The first one I came with checkbook in hand expecting to make several purchases because I love candles so much. The only thing I ended up purchasing was a Barrington candle holder which I love and it goes very well with my primitive/colonial decor.
The second time I went to a party to support my sister in law and it took me all of five minutes to decide I didn’t want a single thing. . .that was until I won a little champagne pear tealight. Oh My Gosh. . I love that scent! But wouldn’t you know it. . .Partylite discontinued that scent so now I just politely decline attending any invitations to Partylite. I can’t afford to waste my time.
Amanda
December 7th, 2007 at 11:43 am
161This response is unreal. First off, Justin, wow, keep writing your sponsors must love it. Second, why don’t these “Partylite Consultants” spend a little time researching who they are selling for.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/misc/partylite
is a good place to start. Also, yeah I love getting together with friends and family too, but instead of making them feel obligated to buy something, I just have them over because I like their company. And I get that part about knowing how to keep your wallet shut, but honestly honey, you know what you are really asking for and that is their support because if they didn’t give their support you would have to sell something else. If anyone asks me to come to their Partylite gathering, of course I politely say no. Justin is just blogging, so get off his ass about writing his opinion on something. Not to mention, you’re really sounding “cultish.” Where did all of you come from all the sudden anyway? P.S. the product sucks! All this over tea lights….
Kathy
December 8th, 2007 at 12:54 am
162I have enjoyed reading all the consultants’ responses. I have looked a long time on the internet and would love to know how you find a PL consultant in my area. Kennesaw or Marietta, Georgia.
Anne
December 9th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
163I can’t believe all these partylite consultants coming here to trash you on your blog dude! I think sometimes the “fangirls” attacking like a pack of rabid dogs turns me off from a company. The rabid pack dog mentality here is proof of this. They are supposed to be “representatives” yet their attack mode really makes a poor company image.
Frankly, I have been to a partylite party or two in the past. I get what Justin is stating here. I felt guilty and made a small purchase because you just don’t go to a party and eat snacks, etc. then go away empty handed. You feel like you are being a bad guest.
I didn’t find the candles to be any better than many other brands I have purchased in the past. They are just mediocre soy candles with little to no scent throw. As a matter of fact, I have purchased candles from Walmart (the mainstays brand) and the candles from Walgreens (the patriot brand) for far cheaper and had better results with throw and they do burn cleanly. I have tried Yankee and I have tried Gold Canyon too. I must say, Gold Canyon kicks Partylites butt! However, I feel like I am throwing my money away on those expensive candles.
There is a candle review forum online (if you google it you will find it) and there are many superior cottage industry candles out there with far better scent throw and made out of the same exact soy wax for a fraction of the price.
Justin, Stay strong against the rabid “fangirls”.
M
December 10th, 2007 at 7:14 am
164I agree with Elune (best post I ever read).
While I am a consultant and do like it. I won’t be doing it for much longer. First of all, I was never good at sales and pressuring people to buy things. I work for a marketing firm. I know how it goes. That’s why I’m a designer :)
The products are great, but then again so are products from pacifica and illuminations.
The people I’ve met have been nice. I recently tried to sell on ebay because I’ve been getting no sales at all going door to door, posting ads on CL, posting ads on newspaper sites, and doing one fair.
To my suprise there were a lot of haters and threatened to report me. That’s fine.
Because it in long run, I won’t be a part of your team, you won’t be making a commission off of me, and you need to recruit more people.
I wasn’t making much of sales anyway, but I’m also financially lucky!
I just think people need to realize that your helping a company make more sales/$$ off of you.
Real people give their friends the discounts and don’t force them into buying things.
Sure the candles smells great but why do you think partylite donates so much the cancer society? You think those fumes are pure? haha!
anyhow…good luck to all and remember don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
Sherin
December 10th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
165Justin, you rock!! I found this blog entry accidentally while searching for some way to get my $100 back from my low class thug of a consultant. I canceled my order the day after I placed it and after trashing me on her blog (leaving out key details of our transaction), she has ceased contact with me. She did cancel my order, but so far is keeping my money. Your blog entry has brought me some cheer. Thanx.
Sherin
Tammy
December 19th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
166These comments are hilarious! How does purchasing something from Pottery Barn any different than purchasing from PartyLite or any other home based business. People complain about making money off of others. HELLO! Welcome to the world of business!! Somebody’s getting rich somewhere whether you are buying from Walmart, Pottery Barn or home based businesses. You just happen to meet the people making the money. Maybe there’s a bit of jealousy here?? Because you aren’t doing as well as they are?? Come on! Think about it! Home based business are NO different than any other store you shop at. Basically home based business is like a bartering system. The hostess supplies the “store” location and customers in exchange, the consultant comes to the house and gives her tons of free and discounted products and the consultant see her product. When was the last time you went shopping? I can pretty much guarantee you went to the grocery store within the last week. Do you think the owners of the grocery store are hurting for money? NOPE, their enjoying profits off of what you’ve just purchased! Believe it or not, you’ve helped my people get rich and richer!! So maybe you should use the energy you have and join them so you can enjoy the money as well as we do! Believe me, that’s a lot of money to make from Home Based Businesses!!!
Queenie
December 31st, 2007 at 7:49 pm
167I too am a “Former UL” w/that so called Partylite company….I’m sorry…but I have to agree w/Justin on most of his complaint….I just happened to stumble on this blog and I read most of them…and chuckled to myself…you guys are all “Brainwashed”….that is exactly what PL wants you to think…they are the best…tell it like it really is…the hostess doesn’t get ANYTHING FOR FREE….she has to pay the tax…plus the s/h & then the tax on that…and if she wants the “hostess only specials” and her 1/2 price items…if she qualifies…well she can easily rack up $100+ bill…How can you honestly say…”Free”…to everyone….I was introduced to another DS company who appreciates your DS experience…and I was “hired” in as a Division Mgr…making 45% on my sales..and 15% on my team…yeah..it’s good money…but lets face it ladies and gentlemen….times are tough and frankly….I am tired of calling people and pressuring them into “hosting shows”…people get tired of seeing you walk into a room…thinking “her she comes again”…Good luck to all of you PL groupies…your gonna need it…yeah they have a good candle…as far as the accessories…I never realized how gaudy they really are till I stopped selling them…oh by the way…they TERMINATED me….how do you terminate a Self employed person…LOL…what a joke that company is…and just for the record…Colonial Candle IS OWNED BY BLYTH….same candle…same quality….I’ll just buy YANKEE…who cares about the soot!!
Edwina
January 5th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
168I recently attended a Partylite Candle party. The candles are excellent, but I must say the experience was one of the worst I’ve ever had. The entire presentation was about making money by becoming a consultant or hostess. I felt like I was at one of those Time Share things where you don’t find out what you won until the sales person uses every high pressure sale technique he knows on you. One of the games played was “gambling”. When you played, you either won a small gift (a tea light) or you had to host a party. Well, I must not have been paying attention to the rules, because when I realized I had to host a party, I was pretty upset. So was the consultant when I told her I had no intention of hosting a party. She went on to tell me that she explained the rules and I was pretty much obligated to host a party! I don’t think so! After an hour and a half of listening to the consultant go on and on about the benefits of hosting a party, we finally got the catalogs and I bought something I really didn’t want just to get the heck out of there. I was angry and embarassed that the consultant tried to make me feel guilty about not hosting a party. I will never, ever go to another Partylite Candle Party again.
Partylite Consultant
January 6th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
169As a Partylite consultant, I felt compelled to voice my opinion. It sounds as though the show that you attended possibly had a pushy consultant, however, that gives you no right to stereotype the entire company! Each consultant runs their business the way they want to. I have never once pressured any one person into buying anything! The product is so great…it sells itself. And if a person is at my show that cannot afford to buy anything, I simply thank them for coming as they return my book. No problem. Unless the consultant held you at gunpoint, it was more than likely YOUR CHOICE to purchase something that you could not afford or thought was overpriced…You did not have to as I highly doubt that there really was a gun involved! If you don’t have any extra money, maybe you should consider selling Partylite, as they are a terrific company to work with, and there can be good money involved. As far as it taking so long to get your replacement item, did it ever occur to you that the item may have been sent to the consultant who took too much time getting it to the hostess, who may not have delivered it ASAP, either. That, my friend, does not make Partylite a bad company, that makes the consultant a bad business owner! I do not care what anyone says, you CANNOT buy a candle at Walmart or any other department store that liquifies and burns the way a Partylite candle does. And as far as the comments on the scents…there are like 50 scents, so choose a stronger one! I am sorry that you have had a bad experience with Partylite as it is a shame that one bad consultant can make us all look bad, but I conclude with just one question-Next time you are in Wal-Mart buying that cheaply priced, cheaply made, low quality candle and the clerk doesn’t smile or the candle doesn’t burn well (of course, it won’t), are you going to run down Wal-Mart on your blog and tell everyone they should no longer shop there, either?
Tammie
January 9th, 2008 at 8:38 am
170Justin,
It is obvious, from the 2nd paragragh of your ranting, that you went to the show with an extremely negative attitude and you got exactly what you expected–which is usually the case.
carl
January 9th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
171This is the funniest thread! There are basically two people commenting.
1. People who think they are gonna get rich selling candles
2. People who don’t want to make other people rich by buying candles
PL pyramid clones listen up . . . step away from the koolaid
Christina
January 9th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
172This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read. Its really very simple. If you dont want to go to a party just say no and if you want to go then its totally your fault if you buy something you dont want. ahhh if they are really your friend do you think they are going to care if you buy something or not and if you are going as a friend of a friend do you really care if they care if you buy something or not. Its not highschool right? If you dont like the product dont buy it. Most people try something once and then that pretty much makes their decision on wether or not they want to purchase it again. I personally love Partylite candles they smell wonderful and burn clean. So if I got invited I would go. However if I got invited to let’s say Pampered Chef I would probably decline because although I love their product as well I HAVE TOO MUCH of it at this time so my decison would be no thanks not this time but ask me next time. See its very simple we all make our own decisions. Totally understand that you were just venting way way along time ago and I’m still laughing that this is still going on and here I am writing on it.
Everyone have a great night and remember its only pressure if you make it that way:)
Kimberly
January 9th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
173This was fun to read. I sold Partylite back in 1998, and I had fun with it. It gave me the skills for what I do now, which is a health coach. I learned that I wanted to be with a company that helped people, and I now work with a company that does. John Gray who wrote “Men are from Mars and Women are form Venus” promotes this company, and the man who writes “Chicken Soup the the Soul” wrote a book called Chicken Soup for the Healthy Soul just for this company. I am very honored to work for such a great company. If anyone is interested in this company let me know. You can email me at nuktravelclub@aol.com
Gina
January 10th, 2008 at 8:59 am
174Why find something to complain about all the time. It is not easy for a person to try to get you to buy products when there are people like you messing trying to mess them up. For some of these consultants, it’s a 2nd job for them to make ends meet. It’s a way for ladies to get together and just relax and have fun. So what if you buy the least expensive thing because its your friend. You help her out and you get to get away from your job, family, bills, children etc. If you are so bold, just dont buy anything. Stop always trying to be the one that finds the loop hole in everything. Life is to short. If you dont like these parties, than just dont go. I bet if they have any snacks you are sure to eat or drink something. Well perhaps those snacks were paid for by having a party earlier that month. Bottom line…you have a right to your own opinion, and my opinion is just stay away from the fun.
Annmarie
January 10th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
175Party Lite is a great company. I agree that the candles are pricey but you get what you pay for, GREAT QUALITY!! I don’t mind paying for great quality. And as far as the scents are concerned, you probably have a blockage in your nose because these candles smell better than any cheap candle out there. They are not too strong or too weak, they are just right. I think that you are a man & men usually don’t like these types of parties because women spend a lot. But, if you see what you can get for for free or 1/2 priced items & savings, you would probably be hooked, too.
suzie
January 20th, 2008 at 2:08 am
176I assume justin is a guys name…
what are you doing at a candle party …
and number two .. dont buy anything if you don’t want to.. that simple .. seriously …
either you like party lite or you don’t there is good and bad in everything, I just think it was annoying that I wasted 5 mins of time to listen to you complain about how you got sucked into sitting through a show…
sounds like you would be doing everyone a favor by staying home instead of being a debbi downer.
Nikki
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
177I have been invited to many Partylite candle parties…and yes i always end up buying something even if i really dont need it…(i kinda feel obligated) but never have been pushed into buying anything! It’s always your own decision to walk out buying something or leaving without purchasing anything at all..but me personally have just felt like i had to buy at least something.
I must say, i agree with Justin when he mentions that the companies candles dont have much frangrace…that i will strongly agree on. When open up the box, you can smell the frangrance…but while burning…no frangrance at all! Thats just my own personal thoughts.
stacy
January 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
178Hi Im not sure how I found this article, but I am really glad I did. I am very interested in how people really feel about pl candles. I really like them myself I do think they are expensive though. I have been a consumer for years I just became a consultant a year ago and to be honest I dont like always asking people to have a party I feel pushy just by asking so thanks justin for venting
crazyforhostingapartyliteparty
January 30th, 2008 at 1:58 am
179I like how they say the hostess earns “FREE” money to spend… that ‘free money’ cost me $30.00, I had to pay $14.95 for $200.00 worth of “FREE” gifts, then shipping and handling and don’t forget the tax on that $200.00 whether I use it or not. Then, the best part is I couldn’t use that $200.00 to buy the hostess specials or the half priced items. By the time all is said and done I wound up spending a fortune for my “FREE” gifts. I put out $68.00 just to get my gifts and hostess specials. Not to mention the money and time put out shopping for food and drinks, cleaning and having the party, cleaning up after the party, having the product shipped to me, inventory it, divide the orders up and deliver them! All while the consultant brags about how much money you can make as a consultant, for very little work or effort! I did all the work and she made all the money…. I will never host another party again….
Molly Ann Riedel PL Consultant
January 31st, 2008 at 6:27 pm
180I have read this thread of back and forth comments, and have agreed and disagreed w/ many of the ideas. But this last one especially sums up my feelings about PL.
I HATE the company more than you could EVER know! But they are the best quality candles you can find, and if burned properly, will last the longest – some into 100s of hours.
I am a Consultant in the Minneapolis, MN area, and don’t make a ton of money doing it. (I guess nothing really ;) But it DOES give me the ability to meet new people people and stay active – as I have a medical condition that prevents me from doing my REAL CAREER anymore. I am ABSOLUTELY NO PRESSURE – AND NO ONE SHOULD FEEL LIKE THEY MUST BUY AT A PARTY!
Like many others I’ve read, I, too, would offer to do a show for you, Justin, and show you how it should REALLY be done! I give out tons of free stuff – everyone gets somenthing at my shows! And I think people appreciate it. And I am THE BEST at getting as many of the “specials” for as possible for anyone who wants them! I KNOW THAT, HANDS DOWN! ;)
I will look back to hear from you Justin, as I am entirely
sincere about no-pressure sales tactics and would love to get the chance to show you what is unique about PL and DOES make it worth the price! TTFN ~Molly
partygrrrl
February 1st, 2008 at 8:12 am
181I’m throwing a party this week and I’m not at all interested in how much I benefit from the sales. It’s an opportunity to have a girls night out, eat some food, drink some wine, and yeah, sell some candles.
Are the accessories overpriced? Yes! Are the candles a bit costly? Yes! All of these in home sales products are pricey.
No one is forcing you to purchase anything at these parties. If you’re too weak to resist a sales pitch for a product you neither want or need (that goes for any product not just Partylite), then DON’T GO TO THE PARTIES.
Queenie
February 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
182Just for the record…the next time you are in Walmart…pick up a box of their tealites…and flip it over…you will notice they are manufactured by none other than “Blyth”…the makers of PL candles…the cost…..$2.49…for only 9…it ain’t a dz…but look at the savings…no s/h…then tax on the s/h…and they smell 100 times better…or just buy a Cape Cod candle…also owned by PL…they might be a little more…but I can order right online and not pay ANY SALES TAX!!! Just $6.95 for s/h and have it delivered right to my door…No show…no consultant pestering me…no food to prepare or house to clean…and no boxes of candles etc. to go thru and deliver to guests…this is a better quality and a stronger smelling candle than any PL candle…If all of you PL consultants think your really making $25-$30 an hr..think again…by the time you figure your gas….wear and tear on your car…the accessories and display cloths and …all the door prizes you give away…and the baggies to put the goodies in….the postage…the catalogs…and all the other things that go along w/preparing for a show I think you will find your not making much more than you would if you went out an got a REAL JOB…
Patrick
February 7th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
183Everyone gives and takes in each and every situation.
When you give, and you feel you gave too much – or without intention, do you voice your concern? Or look to recreate the experience again and again.
When you take something from someone else, do you even realize it? Do you acknowledge all that was involved in the transaction?
Thanks for the eye-opener; these entries are certainly thought-provoking . . . it’s interesting to see the other side of the coin.
reesa Huntridge
February 11th, 2008 at 12:54 am
184Just a customer here and want to say I am a candle whore and will buy them when I can…However, I burn the partilites and they are the best for the value. I have and will continue to have the parties because it is a venue for my girlfriends to come over, relax, have wine and eat yummy food. Buy products they will use and in the long run love what they purschased at my house… I get nothing except the hostess deal…Burn baby burn because these candles smell the best and burn the best I have had the pleasure to use.
tbell
February 16th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
185I was a Partylite lover until I came across Gold Canyon Candle Company. They are, hands down, THE best smelling candles I have ever smelled!!! I have bought tons of very cheap and very expensive candles in my lifetime and these candles are the best quality and price. They are mostly in jars, but have some tealights and votives as well. Their jarred candles have 2 wicks so they burn more evenly then others and don’t do that cave in thing with the wax left around the edges. I can put one on my fireplace mantle and within minutes you can smell it throughout the entire house (and my house is almost 3200 Sq Ft.). I still like Partylite, they do have some great products, but if you want candles that are high quality with a high scent throw you need to try Gold Canyon Candles. You won’t be sorry and you will instantly get hooked.
Victoria
February 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
186I just started as a sales consultant for Party Lite. I feel like I was pushed into doing it and don’t think I have the free time to add a third job to already my busy work schedule, with two REAL jobs. Last night I just completed my second show and honestly I do not force people to purchase anything. I just have cocktails with friends, catch up on our lives and leave catalogs out for people who may be interested. I think there are pushy people in this world, we can choose to participate or not. I hope this will bring in some income to help me with my bills, if not I will just stop being a consultant.
Samantha
February 27th, 2008 at 12:09 am
187Justin,
Can I ask one question? What is it that you do for a living? I found your opinion very intersting and am curious to see what is your background/standing in life. You mentioned you were a big nerd. I will be honest with you I am a sales consultant, but only because i like to get the product i sell for a discount, and have the oppurtunity to hang out and meet new people while i’m working. HOWEVER…..I have a day job and I love it more than anything. I actually work the IT Departmnet of a Direct Sells Company, I pretty much assist and help design/maintain Applications used in our company setting. (Ha big nerd right back at ya) and have thoroughly enjoyed disecting and analyzing the companies behaviours. So tell me what is it that you enjoy professionally? (sorry not trying to dispell you’re opinions, only trying to see where it all comes from, because i really don’t believe it all comes from this experience)
Justin
February 27th, 2008 at 11:51 am
188@Samantha:
First, I am not sure where exactly you read that I consider myself a big nerd, however, I do consider myself an extreme geek. Geek in the terms of staying on top of my industry and technology as a whole; not a geek as in I am nerdy and read books twenty-four-seven.
I do not wish to seem as though I am stereotyping individuals, I am merely speaking from my personal opinions on the statement.
I am currently an entrepreneur working on projects: MoFuse, various GPS projects, Matrux, LLC; and Just the Web, LLC. I also am a web developer for a private university in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
I am more of an entrepreneur than anything else; therefore my opinion is oriented by feelings and experiences associated with situations from both business and tangible personal concepts.
I have managed and developed projects ranging from one individual to projects involving hundreds of individuals. I am a partial designer and man of many talents. I’m a romantic and a narcissist — so I have been told.
I’m stable, financially well-rounded, and mature. I do not speak just because I can; I do not share opinions merely to read my own works. Trust me, I gave the entire Blyth company a fair overview before I wrote this article.
As far as what I do and what I enjoy — its similar discussions, however, I am more into human behavior and cognitive psychology, the science behind why technology exists in people that create such hype.
Hopefully this gives you a bit of insight. I’m a candle purchaser — candles make for romantic moments, a top of other various items — but who can go without a wonderful smelling candle.
Everyone must remember a few things. This website is owned by one individual. The opinions and statements on this website, especially this article, are my opinions and statements — owned by me.
I am not here to tell you what is wrong or what is right. I am not biased and I gave Partylite its fair opportunity to win my business; I even purchased a bunch of
crappyproducts to give them a fair demo period to earn my business.As I mentioned before, partylite definitely does not hold any market share in this guy..
Bigdaddy
February 29th, 2008 at 12:17 am
189I’ve read some of the comments dating back to the beginning and would like to comment to those who are “mis-informed”. My wife has done nothing BUT direct sales for the past 20 years..17.5 of them with Partylite during what I would call their “heyday”. It was really good to us. We were able to raise our children and NEVER SPENT A PENNY ON CHILDCARE ! She excelled with them, eventually becoming a Regional Vice President. She worked it like she wanted to work it, sat her own hours, her own goals, and did what it took to succeed. Never once sacrificing my son’s hockey or my daughter’s dance. In fact, I can count on my one hand how many events that she ever missed. She worked with the PTA, did many of daytime field-trips with both kids, and didn’t have to get up at 5:30a.m. to be at work at 7:30 a.m., and fight rush hour every morning, or every night, or have to work over, or have to work on weekends, or holidays, or have to kiss the bosses ass. She was appreciated, made a wonderful living (probably more money than most who have wrote in) and became a wonderful public speaker and a fabulous trainer all selling “candle-shit”. Oh, and did I forget to tell you that we were fortunate enough to go to Hawaii not once, but 3-times with the company. All expenses paid for achieving sales and sponsoring goals. Also, Cancun twice, St. Thomas, Bermuda, the Atlantis and other great trips. She earned 15 trips in 17.5 years. How many of you with REAL JOBS have gotten those kind of perks from your employer and have gotten off of work as much time as you wanted ? Very few, I’m sure. Also, just like when you buy an appliance that’s a Whirlpool, a stereo that’s a BOSE, or a diamond thats 2karats, doesn’t mean that they are all of the same quality, henceforth the candles at Wal-mart. The fact is that Blyth produces somewhere near the 85% mark of all the WAX candles that are AMERICAN MADE ! The company has struggled in recent years and my wife has moved on to a new venture where she appears as though she will out perform her Partylite career, but we look on it with fond memories of a good company that sold a great product and treated both its hostesses and consultants very well.
Howie sell
February 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
190I feel the way you do about direct sales – but only when I feel pressured to buy stuff I really don’t want. But what about when I like the product? What if I’ve never ever found better candles that burn clean for this long with these scents? I happen to know a lot of people who love to get together and buy PartyLite products. Wouldn’t it be kinda cool if Extreme Geeks catalog did parties? Get discounts on that stuff and get to play with it before you buy it?
As is true with other direct sales companies, when you study the money, you see that the consultants receive better pay because there is less overhead (no retail stores to maintain, etc.) I’ve seen Partylite dramatically improve the lives of many single mothers. On a different note: it’s funny to see your blog and then see responses from people who are trying to sell you on doing a party!
Justin
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
191@BigDaddy: Congratulations on profiting off exactly the elements of this industry that I despise so much. I do not have qualms or any negative feelings against prosperity; especially towards a situation such as yours. This article was not directed at every Partylite consultant, not even the majority I am sure. It was based off a few of my experiences with various scenarios involving Blyth and Partylite organizations. However, your feeding the spirit of Blyth worked for your family, or should I say your wife’s feeding of their pockets.. You met their goals, made them money, and they rewarded you with trips and lavish vacations I am sure — that is how things work.. you work and get rewarded.
Just think if your wife or yourself applied all that energy, time, and mental process to something that would totally provide you with solid success and prosperity; don’t you believe that it would be more beneficial than the pocket feeding of others?
@Howie sell: I am in a position to state that I would not enjoy any Extreme Geeks catalog parties; I do not care about trying before I buy necessarily. But I agree with you — most of the comments on my article from consultants trying to sell myself, or even modestly sell others are moderated.. I do not want any one I am against finding free publicity and sponsorship through my works —
@Everyone else and those in the future: If you’re going to post something, add to the discussion — do not be biased with your statements; I am open minded — be intelligent and I will return the gratitude.
Don’t sell me — hopefully it isn’t too late for those who have sold themselves..
Philosophical Musings
March 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 am
192I recently attended a PL gathering held by a friend of mine. I have been unemployed for some time, and had informed my friend that I wouldn’t be able to make any purchases because right now rent and food is more important, but she invited me to come anyway because she wanted to hang out with me. There, I was offered the opportunity to become a “consultant”. I decided to research the company and came across your blog. I think it addressed some of the issues that I am concerned about. The main one is that I don’t want to “use” my friendships/relationships just to make money. I make friendships because I like people, period, with no expectation of anything in return. It’s part of my philosophy. But, in discussing the idea with some of my friends, I have wondered if I have it backwards in some cases. Because I have built that base, my friends have actually encouraged me in this because they want to be able to “give me something”. I’m still not sure I agree yet, but it was a different perspective to me.
Then, as I was reading over comments on this blog, especially those where people go back and forth about the costs vs the quality of the product and costs/hazards of buying in a store vs from people that you know in a party for (direct sales), I began thinking about other issues, like… although we can buy these candles cheaper at Walmart or Target, are we truly buying them there at cost? Or, are we paying for them at the expense of other people. For really informative and educational look at this idea, I recommend looking at Annie Leonard’s “the Story of Stuff” http://www.storyofstuff.com/ This is a 20 minute video that expands this further than just an individual party and your friends. Maybe we need to look at the overall business practices of the PL and other companies? Do they exploit their employees? Do they exploit the countries where they get their raw materials from? Do companies like PL have higher prices because they are actually more accurately reflecting the costs associated with production rather than Walmart or Target or because they can sell things at the higher price?
I have some thinking to do, but I have definately learned some things by reading your blog. Thanks for writing your opinion!
Angie
March 4th, 2008 at 10:30 am
193Wow, sounds like you are an angry little man. Also sounds like you just hate the world, don’t know how to have any fun and are just mean in general.
Have a nice day!
No one cares about your opinion!
Santa Rosa Mom
March 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
194I have made a conscious choice to purchase from these direct marketing type vendors (Partylite, Cookie Lee, Tupperware, etc). My reasoning is simple. They provide part time jobs for mostly women, mostly mothers, with flexible hours. It is very difficult to find these types of jobs. So I figure, if I am going to buy a candle, why not buy it from Partylite instead of Target, and perhaps pay a bit more. I am not saying Target is bad. No, that also provides jobs. But this is another option with a lot of time flexibility. Most other jobs where you can be employed with similar qualifications are not time-flexible, especially if you have just started and are low on the totem pole. So I understand the pressure tactics, the sales methods, but I make a choice to support these women.
Tammy
March 5th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
195Wow, interesting thread. Justin, if you dont like party lite, that is ok. Not everyone does. And each is entitled to his/her own opinion. And all are really great opinions. I love to read these heated threads like this. We have such a diverse group of people here. But anyway, the reason for my posting. Justin, if you dont like partylite but love candles, have you tried Scentsy? The scent throw is fantastic, better than any candle i have used (and I too am a candle lover). I was given a Scentsy warmer for Christmas and loved it so much, I did the research and found out about the company and signed on mostly to get the discount. But in that process, I have had my candle burning and friends and family have come over and wanted to purchase. So I signed on as a consultant. Check out my website at ##URL HIDDEN## No pressure, if you dont like it that is ok. But I would love it if you give it a try. Have a great day.
NJLEO
March 9th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
196Hi! I am a former PL consultant and understand your blog. I stopped selling for reasons you stated. Being the 196th reply, I have read may of them and just wanted to say…buy Yankee Candles. They are clean, have better scents that do fragrant your room and are cheaper. Plus you can purchase them in a store, not through a consultant. Get your burn on!
Jill
March 10th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
197NJLEO, for someone who used to be a Partylite consultant I’m surprised to hear to say that Yankee Candles are clean and cheaper. Yankee Candles have to be the dirtiest burning candles I’ve ever known and they are the same price as PartyLite. Supporting YC is just giving another corporate rich guy more billions in his pocket. I know, I live in the next town. PartyLite offers great opportunities, the same as any other direct sales job. It’s too bad an ex consultant would say such a thing.
Shandelle
March 13th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
198Gold Canyon candles are actually the best candles around. I have been a customer of theirs for years and am also a consultant. They are scented throughout and when you open your front door you can smell them outside. They burn down to a certain point and stop, for safety reasons and do not produce that soot as mentioned from some of the store brands listed. They do not blow up like the store brands either! I used to be a very good customer of the mall candle store and shifted my business to a safer and better longer lasting candle and now get a discount, make money and travel, not a bad deal!! They are also double wick.
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Tristan Adair
March 14th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
199Hey Justin,
Sorry to see you had a bad experience. I felt that way for YEARS (Tupperware, Amway, Avon) and AVOIDED these parties like the plague.
I’m getting ready to eat crow now. Ok. I was the one that was going to die, burning my house down with candles. I have probably 250 candles. I was a candleaholic.
Then I found a flameless candle that scents my whole house with one (yes 1) little piece of a 6-part bar of wax. Its a 2 part warmer (25 styles) with a lid and a base with a 25 watt bulb. No flame, no wick, no soot. There’s 80 scents to choose from and man I just can’t get enough. I think I’m ready to stop and they put out a slew of new scents and new adorable warmers.
I got into it ONLY to get product, and then they started mailing me checks. I’ve only had 2 parties, but the stuff sells itself. I don’t put much effort into it. I’ve almost got all the product I want, and I’ll be scenting my home with my 15 adorable warmers (I give them as gifts too) for years to come. LOVING my scentsy stuff! If you would have told me 15 years ago I’d be a dreaded ’seller’ in an Amway/Tupperware type of business, I would have spit at you. But Scentsy is like scented crack… (JUST KIDDING!) and I’m totally addicted. I guess others are feeling it too – each month we grow 400%.
Adorable, Affordable and Addictive.
Check it out
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Best,
Tristan in Utah
Marcia Fay
March 15th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
200I attended a party put on by Kelly (distributor)at my sisters house. There were about 8 people there. Everyone ordered from the partylite catalog. This was I believe early Nov 2007. Well no order was placed. I called Kelley and asked her where the order was. She replied that she had some personal issues and had not put in the order yet. I asked her if she still had the order and if she could put it in. She said she would. That has been approximately one month ago. I still have not heard from her. Is there a way to get that order filled… as a lot of women at that party ordered several items. One woman ordered at least $125.00 worth of partylite. This was very discouraging as I live in a small town and we have had many partylite parties and have not had any trouble like this. I love partylites candles and would like to keep ordering from them. As of now I think the company has turned down the volume on their website and you can not even get into it. If anyone out there knows what to do in this situation please email me at marcia702@comcast.net.
Thanks
Marcia
Kathy
March 15th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
201This has been an interesting post to read….Justin is complaining that people don’t like what he had to say about Partylite-what did you expect? As far as the person who said that Partylite is a pyramid scheme, they are ILLEGAL and not allowed in the US since the 1980’s. When you hear about pyramid schemes these days it is usually because it was just shut down so it made the news. As far as capitalism; here is an opportunity for someone to reach their American dream, open their own “store” for FREE, like any business you ask your family and friends to come and visit your store first and then you meet their friends, and then their friends, and so on and so on and so on…. And then there are a lot of customers in your store who are not your friends/family! And someone walks in and says “hey I can do what this person is doing, I want to try!” This is no different than anyone does to meet their American dream except most of us cannot own our own storefront. I am a consultant (if you haven’t already figured that out yet). My SRVP makes over 100,000 dollars a year! She is one of the most positive and encouraging person I have ever met without putting ANY pressure on me to sell more. Partylite is about helping people get stuff for free, be offered an opportunity to buy a quality product you can’t buy in Target or Walmart, or to work a part time job to supplement your income or reach your dreams.
I always encourage hotesses to invite as many people as possible so people DON’T feel obliged to buy just because they feel guilty.(Justin have you thought about going to some therapy to work on your guilt complex and anger issues? Spending a whole year on this blog sounds a little like OCD-obsessive compulsive disease) I feel sorry for you that you choose to look at the negative side of things. and that the world should work according to how Justin thinks it should be. Having an opinion is one thing, but being angry with other people for having THEIR own opinion….Is no one allowed to have an opinion except you? Is yours the only opinion that is right?
“However, your feeding the spirit of Blyth worked for your family, or should I say your wife’s feeding of their pockets…” your comments here are not just against a few partylite consultants, you have now moved onto the Blyth company and telling people they should put their energy someplace else. Do you own your own corporation? Made a lot of money doing something else with your energy and time? Made yourself a useful member of society? You sound like someone in their late 20’s or early 30’s who thinks they have life all figured out. Has it EVER occurred to you that you might be wrong? That maybe Partylite isn’t the terrible company you think it is? Have YOU done anything to change the terrible world you think that it is? That maybe there are many direct sales companies because there is something for everyone? Have you made a conscious thought to change the world by being positive? Have you brought a lawsuit against a company because you thought they were doing something illegal? (Again, I really would recommend the therapy to help you let go of your anger and OCD. Life is what YOU make of it-so far it seems like a lot of negative energy.)
I hope you have learned something from the people who have responded to your blog. it seems to be MANY, MANY MORE who like Partylite and blyth and have had experience with the company that is more than attending one show.
I sincerely hope that your life will continue to improve for the better (with or without partylite candles!)
Alicia
March 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
202I have to agree with the Yankee Candle bit… they are the most dirtiest candle i’ve prolly ever seen… Partylite candles are a little expensive.. but the quality of them is worth it… I am a consultant. and i do believe that Partylite is giving you what you pay for… They are trying to make your home filled with ambience…
Justin
March 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
203@Kathy:
I have sent you a response via email with questions to your answers; it was personable and felt as though an email would better assist you in understanding me, my opinions, and where I gathered my thoughts from.
It is a bit long winded — enjoy.
Kim
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
204Hey, I just googled PartyLite because it’s time for me to have another show to get my FREE SHOPPING SPREE. I love having parties, and my friends and family enjoy coming – mostly because I invite fun people – not the Justin-type out there. I have NEVER pressured anyone to attend, or even to buy anything, nor has my consultant. She’s become a good friend not only with me, but with my friends, family and neighbors. She’s polite, professional, FUN, and always gives us tons of freebies and prizes. How may STORES that you shop in will do that? And if you think only the consultant and the hostess make out on the deal – you’re dead wrong again. All of my guests have an opportunity (not required) to make a purchase and even get a discounted item or two just for attending the show. How many STORES do you frequent that give you a good deal just because you’re a loyal customer. How many give you a free shopping spree just because you’ve introduced them to your friends and family. Did you know that EVERY STORE AND EVERY BUSINESS has a mark-up on their product – daaaaaaaaaaah – it’s called making a profit. Do you have a job? Does your grocery store make you feel obligated or get “pissed” if you don’t buy anything – how about the gas station, your clothing store, hardware store … you get the idea. If anyone in the Southeastern Wisconsin area needs a GREAT PROFESSIONAL consultant, contact PartyLite and ask them to put you in touch with Kristi Thompson – she’s been my consultant for years and not only believes in her products (the best in the industry), but always makes people feel welcome (even those that do not purchase). You know, Justin, when you have a good thing and you know it, you don’t have to pressure people. Sometimes consultants run into rude customers – perhaps that’s what really happened at the show you attended. Hmmm … I wonder … ???
Katty
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
205I can’t believe I’m replying to this …
My daughter is a PL consultant and has a very successful business. I’m very proud of her.
We all have opinions on every product in the world – some will love PartyLite and others won’t – that’s okay.
Some love direct sales – others don’t – that’s okay.
Some love writing blogs – others don’t – that’s okay.
Want to talk about the Presidential campaign?
There are lots of GREAT products out there and lots of GREAT consultants out there – find something you like and go with it. Find a company you like and support that company. Find one you don’t like – don’t support it – but your one experience does not define a consultant, a product or a company.
I know that my daughter says she loves when she has people are shows who love and support the PL product, but she also likes to hear from people who don’t – simply stated, a good business person will learn not only what to do, but what not to do. So Justin, your experience can help others grow a successful business in whatever area they choose to work.
Those that paid for your free shopping spree – the products were free – PL charges shipping and tax based on the LAWS in your state – write your politicians if you don’t like the laws. If you purchased 1/2 price and monthly specials – GREAT – enjoy the discount you received. If you opted not to purchase those sale items – that’s okay too.
Getting off my soap box now …
LaDonna C Jones
March 27th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
206I would rather support my friends than support the owner, employees, marketing agencies for grocery stores and retail outlets. Direct sales companies do not have the enormous overhead such as conventional stores and for the most part, they offer better quality and better customer service. My final advise to you: Keep supporting the strangers and advertising agencies and all the overhead that push their products in their stores. LaDonna Crockett-Jones/TEXAS
lil
March 28th, 2008 at 11:07 am
207Not to long ago I had a few of my friends and co-workers come to one of my partylite, and none of them felt as if they had to buy anything, actually all of them enjoyed coming and a few of them brought their husbands along and let me tell you they guys were actually more into it than the girls. Point to be made?..all of us had a great time and something different to do over the weekend!!! no one is ever obligated to open up their wallets unless they want to!!!!
Pippa
March 29th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
208Hello there
I was a PL consultant in the UK albeit for a short time only, I loved the job and the candles, I have since moved country and now living in Thailand.
I would love to be able to work here as a consultant as there is a very high demand for candles and all the accessories, many of my friends are always looking for good quality candles and they are very hard to find here.
Also I Know that the hotels out here use candles all the time and so that would be big business.
I did send an email to PL in Australia pointing out that it would benefit PL greatly to do something about this very very good opportunity, but alas nobody ever got back to me, this was three months ago now!
So if anyone knows how I can get the ball rolling on this subject then please leave advice for me.
Many thanks
Pippa X
A Southern Lady
March 30th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
209THANK YOU for the honest look at the reality of MLM schemes like Partylite. I found your page after searching “Partylite complaints”. I had never even heard of Partylite until a co-worker of mine asked me to come to one of her parties. I had serious trouble staying awake throughout.. until I glanced through the catalog and noticed the prices. Even though I made it clear to my co-worker that I’m not interested in attending further Partylite parties or hosting one, just about every single day she haggles me and everyone around me to either host or attend one. It’s annoying, unprofessional, and certainly damaging to any potential friendship between us that might have occurred otherwise. She asked me why I didn’t find the MLM concept as brilliant as she did, and when I politely explained to her how much of a scam it is, she (like others who are too brainwashed to figure it out) seemed highly offended. It’s not just an opinion – as you mentioned in your well-written post. It’s a fact of numbers. It just doesn’t add up.
Anne M - Massachusetts
April 4th, 2008 at 11:53 am
210I appreciate the opinion of all people – this huge blog started with just one persons opinion – and then 200+ had to give theirs…quite a creation Justin!
Justin – I applaude you for your research, opinion and decision not to purchase something due to your dislikes of the products (and the company).
At the same time I applaude my research, opinion and belief in a company who creates something wonderful for people who enjoy candles and high quality products.
I read through this whole thing. I gasped at some of your stories and agreed with others (#200 Marcia – call and complain to the home office of PL – they will help you. #209 Southern Lady – sorry you are experiencing a pushy lady – it’s totally up to you (and all of us) who wish to purchase or not a great product. If she continues – contact your HR department)
To those who think the consultants of PL are being brainwashed by the compnay – can we turn that around and say you are trying to brainwash us by your opinion? If someone approaches you and thinks you would be great at hosting a party – just say no thanks I really don’t care for that sort of thing…and then just walk away.
We are all hopefully human here – we all have our opinions – we all have our own beliefs. Enjoy life – it is to short to be negative.
japan
April 7th, 2008 at 2:43 am
211Justin did you ever think that when you posted your blog it would ever go this far?
Justin
April 7th, 2008 at 10:24 am
212@japan:
Yes, matter of fact: The article was written intentionally; to boost seo rankings and pagerank through google. The article was written honestly; from my opinions and experiences. Yet, there was a lot of thought and research put into place to assist in making sure the article has grown as big as it has.
Its not near as big as I would have liked; but it is getting there! This single article receives more visits than almost every other article containing the word, “partylite” on the internet.
Now, if only every 10,000 people who view it monthly actually posted a comment.. that would be great!
anna
April 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
213Ok, twisted my arm — I’ll post!
I do like the candles. They are good quality and they burn well. Our consultant has been with PL a long time and is pretty laid back.
I’m part of a group of ladies who have informal parties because we like the product. No-one really hosts it, we all share the “hostess bonus.” In other words, we all take 20% off our orders. Whoever wants the “hostess special” that month can buy it. We do this because the monthly specials make the products a decent price.
I agree with some of the horror MLM stories. And it would be nice to be able to purchase PL candles retail. But we’ve found a way that works for us without pressure. Some ladies do bunko — we do candles. :)
Todd
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:08 am
214I love how everybody is worried about how much someone makes by selling something. I guess you should never go grocery shopping or buy gas because the proprieters of these places might make money off of you and their distributors etc… I am in the financial planning business and get a kick out of comments like these. I have a friend who sells Partylite and she has for 10 yrs now and loves it. She has earned I believe 9 trips now and they are awesome trips. The company treats her well and she only has probably 3-4 parties per week. I think if it is run correctly, like a business should be, it is perfectly fine. There are always a few who ruin it for everybody else. I think she told me this was the 35th yr Partylite has been in business, so they must be doing something right. I think the products are high quality and always seem to keep up with the changing styles. Just my thoughts!!
Annie
April 23rd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
215I found this site by lookin for Partylite candles to purchase online. I bought some at ebay and didn’t know they were sold through “parites”.
I’d just like to add that the funniest thing about this whole discussion is the partylite consultants who act as though partylite is a religion. Someone even mentioned reading the book, The Secret. I often wonder how people become sheeple, now I know.
Jeff
April 25th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
216I can’t believe all the people who are defending Partylite. I have a friend who sells it and it’s almost like he’s joined a cult. I have declined to go to any of their “parties”, so they’ve finally stopped inviting me, thank god. I think one of the lamest aspects of this is how they call it a “Party” I go to parties to have fun and hang out with people, not buy crap.
Karla(SLC)
May 2nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm
217I am not much of a blogger, nor do I make it a habit to post, but my husband is, and I think he would be proud of me if I did.
My sister in law introduced me to PL, and at first I was very hesistant because I thought the products were over priced. She gave me the biggest candle they sell for Christmas, and I quickly gave it away because I have two small children, a tiny apartment and no where to burn it safely. But I liked the scent and I decided to join in on her smelling crusade. I just loved the scents(most of them) and I wanted to get some free products to try out.
So I had a catalog party, got some free stuff, and I love all of it. I have given most of it away to family and friends because I want them to experience PL.
I hosted my first show in my home about two weeks ago, and my consult had put the wrong day of the week and address on the invite, so of course only two people came because I reminded them of it the night before. I was pretty devastated by that, but I managed to have a show of over $400-yeah for me! Of course my husband was very critical of this consultant and wanted me to not sell PL and just pay full price for the products.
There has been some confusion on how I can sign up under my sister in law who lives in KS, but overall I have had a wonderful experience, and I would like to be a consultant for PL, mostly to share the products to others..the socializing is great and maybe I will make a few bucks.
My husband is a lot like you, Justin. He tends to be critical and logical, but he loves to learn and solve problems. Perhaps I will have him read what you said and have him comment. He owns his own photography business and he is studying marketing and business in school. He is an incredible person. He has a very easy to take personality test that you could take, and you would learn a lot about yourself from it. I know I did. Perhaps you could learn from each other…
I would love to hear any advice from current PL consultants, since I am still deciding on whether or not to be a consultant. Thanks for letting me blab.
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Jon(SLC)
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
218Husband of Karla, here.
Justin, I generally agree with the sentiments you express in your original article. I don’t have time to read all the comments, so I apologize if this has already been expressed.
The simple fact is that there are 3 and even 4 types of people at those parties (not just PartiLyte (the misspelling annoys me so I hyperbolize it), but every direct selling multi-level marketing organization).
1. The consultant, a person who has signed an agreement with the organization they represent.
2. The host, not always present as consultants are often their own hosts — a person who is interested in either the product(s) being sold or in the social opportunity that the party represents. (Keep in mind that not all hosts receive kickbacks in all programs. Some do it purely for the excuse to hold a party. Others do it becasue they truly like the product(s) or service(s) being presented.)
3. The guests who are thoroughly familiar with the format of the gathering (they are showing up to be sold something or to socialize, with the other option as a known additional component), and they do not object to it. Many people truly love the socialization and the opportunity to buy something they enjoy. I’m not really into candles, but I love to cook and I have enjoyed a couple of Pampered Chef parties as a guest. I really like their products, even though I dislike their business model. (Actually in the years since I last went to a P.C. show I’ve noticed that everything they sell is now available through retail options, and I no longer need the party format to get comparable products.)
4. The people, like yourself, who showed up “to be supportive” of the host, and may or may not purchase something out of guilt/obligation/whatever.
If you notice there are no neutral parties listed here. The people who really couldn’t care less don’t generally show up. There are people actively interested in the outcome (consultant/rep and frequently the host), those interested in being there for legitimate reasons (the happy guests who will and do enjoy the event), and the downers (like myself in most of these situations, the people who don’t want to be there and want to convince others that they don’t want to be there either).
Do you see what I’m expressing? Your perspective is not the only one. It is ABSOLUTELY a valid perspective, as I know from my own experience the feeling of wanting to support people but not the MLMs so many get involved with, but that doesn’t automatically mean that every guest feels the same way.
I was strongly opposed to my wife getting involved with Partilyte, but I agreed to let her host a show. As she mentioned the rep completely jacked up the experience, by giving the wrong day (but correct date; she listed Friday instead of Saturday), and the wrong address (off by a couple miles). Yet, after my wife reminded a few people of the event, ones I really didn’t expect to show up (like my own extended family) did, and they were interested in buying even without the socialization and presentation. And then she (my wife) continued to talk with the people who were invited and ended up with over $400 in orders from people who, again, received neither the socialization nor the presentation. You’ve got to believe the shows are more successful with those key elements, or Partilyte wouldn’t include them in their business model.
Again, I understand your feeling, but your attitude of condemning the organization as a whole because you think that everyone on Earth has the same attitude is completely mistaken. Open your mind to the understanding of the personalities and interests of those around you and you’ll find that you can communicate and function with everyone significantly better.
Good luck!
- Jon
Dee
May 7th, 2008 at 5:29 am
219i think that maybe you didnt burn your candles long enough, they clearly state a required burning time for you to benifit the best of the candle. i am a very very long time fan of partylite candles and i have only recently herd a few complaints of the candles not smelling, then to only find out that the person didnt burn the candle long enough for it to smell! if you burn it for 20 min, 40 min it will not smell right away, you literally need to burn it for the required amount of time it states for each type of candle.. then you will get the awsome smell that partylite is well known for!…
Nicole Phelps
June 5th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
220I just started selling Partylite for 3 reasons (and these are REAL reasons): 1. I use them and pay full price time after time after time (10 yrs) GREATFULLY 2. I need a job that I REALLY can be in controll of as far as the schedule, level of interest, etc. because I have a full time job and family 3. PROVIDE customer service for people that depend on it KNOWING I WILL take CARE of them (in part because of this type of blog).
My sponsor is amazing. She is readily available and provides all the training and information that I can handle. Actually, too much for me some times. This is a company that works to serve the public, because they LIKE the public!
Quite frankly, these are the very best PILLARS, TEALIGHTS, and UNIQUE accessories that people who like decorating or candles are looking for and I, for one, am happy to stand behind it!
My email: ##HAS BEEN REMOVED BY THE BIGGEST BOSS YOU’VE SEEN THUS FAR: JUSTIN ###
Please feel welcome to call me if you are having any concern or difficutly… and as always, I welcome anyone looking for information!
Liberty
June 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
221Hello,
I was reading posts and wondered if anyone has heard of Scentsy? They sell candle warmers that melt cubes of wax instead of burning them. The scents are amazing!
You can visit my website, ###URL REMOVED###EMAIL JUSTIN FOR ADVERTISING SHIT### for more information.
-Liberty
Sharon
June 19th, 2008 at 3:55 am
222I have my own candle party plan company and I make my own beautiful environmentally friendly candles and sell giftware that is well below retail price. Products start at $9.00. People come to my parties because they can purchase a great gift and save money.
sharon
Kris
June 19th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
223How typical that the leeches that do this kind of thing for a living, get pissed when someone states what most people certainly feel about this type of sales and marketing. I have known people all my life that say things like “I’ve been avoiding so-and-so because she throwing a :insert product type here: party next week and I don’t want to go.” Or, “oh no, here comes so-and-so selling this or that again.” People don’t like this kind of thing. And no you can’t compare the Avon lady banging on your front door or you neighbor who won’t take no for an answer until you come to the party she’s hosting to adverts in magazines or on television. I personally avoid anyone selling anything directly if possible.
Let me explain why I feel this way. About a year ago my neighbor, with whom I was only mildly acquainted knocked on my door and invited me to her party. I smiled as pleasantly as I could manage and said, “maybe, if I’m off work in time.” I of course had no intention of being home at 6 p.m. that night, work or no.
The evening of the party I took my kids to the park after work in hopes of avoiding this “party” and at 6:30 I felt confident enough that the party was probably almost over and I could go home. Ten minutes after I arrived home she knocked on my door and to my horror my daughter answered it. The I got the oh, no there’s still lots of time, come on!. At this point she literally grabbed me by the wrist and PULLED me out my own front door. Much to my discontent, I went to her party. I sat in her living room surrounded by a bunch of people I had never met and listened to some overexcited woman in too much markup drone on and on about how these were the most amazing products ever invented. After this, I was literally sat down at a table across from this consultant woman and asked directly “What are you buying?” I answer “nothing” and obviously everyone else around heard me and stopped talking and just looked at me. I’ve never felt so humiliated in my life. The consultant then cleared her throat and in a drastically icy tone informed me that my “friend” wasn’t going to make some “goal” if I didn’t buy something. And wasn’t it a shame that she took all this time to plan this, spent all the money for refreshments not to get anything out of it? I wanted to say, I didn’t tell her to spend a damn dime, but by this point I was too embarrassed to say much of anything. I ended up spending $50 on some crap I never needed or wanted just to try to end it all and get out of there. But oh, no, it doesn’t end there. This consultant then launched in on me about hosting a party at my house, OR start selling this overpriced cheap crap myself. In fact she started hounding us all. How much money we can make, all the “free” goodies we can earn. On and on and on. Of course its never mentioned that for every person she recruits or ever party she works she gets more cash.
This type of high pressure, get people in your house and don’t let them out without them dishing out the cash is terrible business practice. I’m sure its lucrative but it shady and disgusting.
Cindy
June 22nd, 2008 at 8:50 pm
224It’s amazing to me that you are willing to put so many people in one lump sum catagory. First of all attending a party like PartyLite is a choice, not an obligation. Secondly, many woman make a good living doing this in order to take care of their families. If you were say a police office, you could be accused of taking advantage of victims in order to take home a pay check. This was not a fair analogy of a sales person. No one said you had to buy, just like any store. You didn’t attack a company, you attacked a person. A person trying to make a living.
summberblue
June 30th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
225As a past District Leader with Partlite, I bought (no pun intended) the dream hook, line and sinker. Unfortuatley I had a SRPV (upline person) that wasn’t very nice and ruined the whole experience.
Now, no longer doing it, with the economy the way it is and all, I couldn’t imagine having to sell PartyLite (not saying the product is bad, because it isn’t at all).
I buy my candles at wallmart (jar candles) for $4.
However, if I were ever in a situation that I needed money FAST…….I wouldn’t hesiste to re-start my business, because you can do that for FREE and make money immediately….just becareful who your upline leaders are.
Carolyn Welker
July 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 pm
226I love PartyLite merchandise and have never felt pressure to purchase anything. As a matter of fact, I am looking for a consultant at this time to help me with an in-home fund raiser for The Leukemia Lymphoma Society. Please if you can help me find a consultant, please email me @ carolynwelker@mchsi.com. Thanks!
Carolyn
Tina(Pennsylvania)
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:38 pm
227I was in a terrible mood today when I came upon this Blog. OMG I can’t get the smile off my face. People they’re candles! Justin is milking this(with all of our help)for all it’s worth. I find all of this so funny I will be passing it along to my friends in the hopes that they also will find it as amusing.
Let me tell you how I found this Blog. I googled PL candles trying to find their website. I was invited to a PL party the other night and couldn’t make it. Thought I would see what’s new and give the Hostess and order because I do love candles and PL candles burn great. However, the website sucks. It doesn’t list prices and we all know why. B/C lets get real, they are overpriced. But anyone that goes to one of these knows that. Part of the experience is just spending time with your friends.
Justin, Thanks for making me laugh I needed it today. By the way, what do you think of Creative Memories!
nunya
July 14th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
228It is unfortunate that so many people have experienced this horrible marketing strategy of being “forced” into buying something they don’t want. Although, I must also equally say that everyone must take responsibilty for attending such parties, buying any products, and their feelings about it after the fact. Being completely against all those who are in marketing (selling any kind of product in this fashion) is unfair, and at the very least stereotypes home-based businesses. The next time you get “scammed” into buying something you don’t want, reflect on the issues you have that caused you to purchase something “against your will”, instead of attacking everybody else who is actually doing what they want to do, which is working in an MLM as a sales consultant.
Carmen
July 16th, 2008 at 9:58 am
229I’m sorry if you dont like this sort of stuff you should have not gone to this party….I have gone to several of these parties because i like their candles…they melt down to the bottom unlike other more expensive brands u gave truedm but i dont buy anything if i dont want to. Just my oppinion.
Michelle
July 20th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
230I am a PartyLite consultant and I have to say that I understand people feel “pressured” to buy something when they go to ANY home show but my philosophy is if you can’t afford to buy anything you can still come to socialize and even think about hosting a show yourself to be able to get the free merchandise that you can’t afford to buy. Many people talk about the price but let’s face it, that’s business. Do you blink an eye at paying $2 for a soda at a restaurant when it costs them pennies? Do you not buy a car because of the thousands of dollars they mark it up to pay their sales people and the execs at the top? See the point? I will not burn any candle in my home except PL, and that’s not just because I’m a consultant. I have burned PL candles in my home for years before even being a consultant. Like any business, you have good sales people, wait staff, therapists, etc and then you have bad ones. I am truly sorry for anyone that has a bad experience with a consultant. I urge you to give anyone or anything a second chance.
Kate
July 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm
231I have a unique perspective because I was not only a PL client – but also a consultant at one point. I am loyal to the products – not necessarily the process. I held parties as a “host” and had one of the best consultants in the region presenting it for me. But, I felt like I was pressuring people to buy – just by having them there! They knew that the more they bought, the more I got in free merchandise – there was an undercurrent of “I need to help Kate get free stuff” – even though I was adamant about them NOT buying unless they found something they really wanted. At parties in the past where I have been a guest, I bought 1 item just to “help” out the hostess get her free stuff. If a person really wants to have party and invite friends over for food and fun, then they should do just that – throw a cocktail party! Just don’t expect to host a partylite party and not have your guest feeling at least a little pressured to buy. Don’t kid yourself that you are there just to have fun and eat. Even if you have the most low key consultants presenting, he/she is there to sell – and you are there to buy. I got out of the business because I was personally not comfortable going into other peoples homes and attempting to do my job while maintaining the “this is just a girls party†atmosphere. I tried that, and all it got me was in the hole. I never made a dime from my business, and I was not the type of personality that was comfortable with recruiting, which is where the real money comes from in this business.
GC fan
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
232This thread has become quite ridiculous. Afterall, it is only candles. (we’re not talking life or death here)
Since this IS about candles, I must refer you to the best candles around which are Gold Canyon. (www.goldcanyon.com)
Take a look and you can thank me later. There are no other candles as fragrant as these and you can purchase online. No need to go through a Demonstrator or attend a Party.
Jessica
July 29th, 2008 at 10:47 am
233First off, Kris…. I am a PL consultant and am appalled at the way the consultant at the show you attended behaved! I NEVER go up to a party-goer and ask them what they are buying, or that the hostess won’t reach her”goal”, and if someone doesn’t buy, I don’t try and make them feel guilty about it. It’s their choice! For all I know, they could have a family member at home that is sensitive to scents and they don’t want to risk causing that person any discomfort. I am a very laid-back consultant. I don’t push product, parties, or even the business itself. I hand out the catalogs, and answer questions that the attendees may have, then, if they order something, I total it up for them. I don’t push anything. I know that not all consultants are like this, which is obvious with the party you attended… but not all are bad, pushy ones either. If I were you, I probably would have done the same thing… but then just contacted the consultant (or a different one, you don’t always have to go through the person you buy from) and returned it for my money back!
Justin, everyone has a right to their own opinion, I am a strong believer in that. But in regards to the “wrong orders”…. have you never gotten a wrong order from a fast food place? If so, do you still go there even though they have gotten your order wrong before? I’ve never had a wrong order through PL, but could understand the frustration it could cause, especially if the consultant (who’s job it is to FIX it) isn’t doing their job.
I can’t speak for other companies, but I do know that if you are not satisfied with a PartyLite product, you can return it, no questions asked, for a 100% refund, or an exchange. I always tell the guests at my parties about this, so they are fully aware… and I have never had a single item returned, nor a wrong order of any kind. Maybe I’ve just been lucky…
Robin
July 29th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
234I am down on party lite candles too. I attended a party and brought along my 18 year old daughter. The consultant convinced her to have a party. An 18 year old with no job and no friends with jobs. So Guess what…… mom’s friends came but only a few showed and bought anything. When it came time to close the party the consultant was impatient and closed the party without letting the hostess choose her gifts. When I went to her home to pick up the items that were sold, She did not hesitate to say “I don’t like teenagers” She still has gift certificates to use but I don’t want to use the same dealer. Any suggestions???????
Neil clemow
July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
235I personaly agree with ur comments. My wife is a partylite consultant…. i Have never in my life seen some1 work so hard to earn peannuts. To top it all she hasn’t yet seen a penny from the company but keeps spending out of my pocket 4 more and more things.
All the consultants who have defended their company on here r nuts, if they r happy to push people into a guilt trip to buy crap then i will see the in hell, as they r nothing better than petty thieves. Thank u for setting up this site to help people understand what bollocks partylite is… From a very unhappy Husband of a partylite consultant….
denise
July 31st, 2008 at 6:45 am
236I’m sorry but I do not in any way agree with you! I have been buying partylite for the last five years and I can never wait for the new scents or products,The candles are by far the nicest I have ever come across, When I first went to a show I thought “why would anyone pay so much for candles?” Then when I got them home I was hooked !The scents are great and there’s very little mess from the candles ,and he christmas products ,I can’t wait for every year so I say give it a real chance ,and by the way I don’t sell I just buy partylite!
denise
July 31st, 2008 at 6:50 am
237Oh and you probably had a bad sales rep. mine is the nicest person and goes above and beyond to make me and all her gests very happy!
Glyn
July 31st, 2008 at 9:34 am
238I am a Partylite consultant in England and have been for 2 years. I have been to many other party plan parties and have bought things, yet have not at others. I work out what I would like and if I wouldnt like anything I dont get anything. The first partylite party I went to was one with Christmas product and loved them. I joined because I think highly of the products and know that others do to.
I have done parties where people havent bought anything because they just don’t want it. If you’re a weak person then you will buy just for the sake of it, but if you have your own mind, then you will make your own mind up.
Please don’t expect all partylite parties to be the same. I am certainly not a pusher because I would want people to feel at ease with me and I hold a no pressure policy.
sunshine
August 1st, 2008 at 10:58 am
239Love your comments and totally agree with your experience. I do understand that it’s a choice to attend and since some of my friends put on a gourmet spread and serve top shelf drinks, I am more than happy to latch on. I usually do succumb to peer pressure and buy something but the problem I have is that most of their candle holders are pretty ugly and the candles all smell like spicy or flowery plastic. There are better scents available than Partylite makes.
When the consultant goes through her spiel about all the wonderful hostess earnings, gifts, and freebies, it makes me wonder – someone has to pay for that stuff as well as the consultant’s cut so doesn’t that mean that this is really cheap crap marked up so everyone can get their cut? That would explain why they don’t smell very good.
I love PL
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
240Justin your stupid. They have the best candles in the world. When you burn them they actully give off a smell.
P.S. Are you gay?
Jessica
August 4th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
241Robin: You don’t have to use the same person. Just go to http://www.partylite.com and search for someone near you, or you can get a hold of the headquarters and tell them the situation and they should help you no problem. You do not have to use the gift certificates through the same person you got them, nor do you have do make any returns or exchanges through that person.
Neil: Not every consultant is a petty thief. I don’t push my stuff on anyone, and hate it when other consultants do. I only talk to people about my candles if they come to me and ask ME about them, this way I know that they don’t feel pressured, or anything like that, and that they do really want the product.
As for your wife, I’ve only spent maybe $20 of my own money on partylite product. I don’t earn much from them, but I don’t go and buy a whole bunch either. I only hold maybe 1-2 shows a month (I’ve got 3 kids under 3, am disabled, and my husband works full time… I don’t have time to do more), and make 25% of the sales. I don’t actually see much of it, but that’s because my HUSBAND orders like crazy! We end up putting the $$ right back into PL, but our house smells great :). My sister got into the same situation as it sounds like your wife is in, but she was with a different company. I would say that it all depends on how conscientious you are about how much you earn & spend, and as long as you don’t go crazy shopping for yourself, then there shouldn’t be a problem!
Oh, and for those of you who don’t like the scent of the candles, have you tried the reed diffusers or the aroma melts? The scent is a lot stronger and more realistic than the candles, and it lasts a lot longer.
Kristine
August 6th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
242The whole concept of these “parties” relies shaming women into buying crap they don’t need even if it is a no-pressure sale. Every time I’ve known someone that’s been to one of these kind of events, the only reason they went is because of some kind of passive-agressive, political, bullshit-allying with co-workers/friends/frenemies that they felt guilted into. Personally, I think that if you don’t want to go then you should just say no. People that really want to get together with friends do so without any kind of monetary or material gain. I do not see the point of even feigning to spend money on things I don’t want so someone else can get a “free gift” that all of their guests paid for!
Additionally, these kind of parties are not fun. EVER. Trust me, NO ONE wants to “learn” about candles. That’s like learning about how to watching paint dry. And as for the claims that PL are the “best” candles. Who fucking cares. That is like claiming to being the validictorian of summer school. At the end of the day your still an idiot.
Brianne
August 25th, 2008 at 8:20 am
243I enjoyed reading your opinion and agree with much of what you have to say. I like reading something that’s well-put, rather than a sound off with nothing to back it up. As an adult women, I unfortunately get invited to many direct sales “parties” and I usually reject the invite, because I hate the pressure to buy and am not interested in the overpriced junk they have to sell. I actually do like parylite’s products, but will not spend the insane amount for things I can purchase elsewhere.
shabooty
August 27th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
244thx for bannage btw.
Ciara
September 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
245Are you crazy? Partylite is amazing and in know way, shape or form are guests pressured to buy things. Partylite sells itself. People are so in love with the candles fragrances or accessories that they have that it gets their attention.
Consultant
September 12th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
246Dear All
I read bits and pieces of the posts. I am a partylite consultant. I am not a consultant to make a profit, but to share a product. The wax is fabulous. I do not promote any other items.
Most of my frequent flyer’s have a party once per year and it is an annual event. I find parylite sells its self.
I do not look for business, it finds me.
Caryndw
September 17th, 2008 at 12:52 am
247I just hosted a Party lite party…I have hosted a couple over the past few years. Honestly…I do not care much for the candles…I agree with Justin that they do not give off very much scent. You are better off buying the melters, oils or the diffusers. If I want a candle that puts of a GREAT aroma, I buy SALT CITY CANDLES. They burn just as clean as Party Lite…but they only sell Jar candles…i believe.
Anyway…I love the party lite decor. My constultant knows i love the decor, and loves it when i have a party, you can walk into my home and count the party lite decor I have. It is so funny…I told my consultant she should make it a game at my parties. Who ever can pick out the most party lite products in Caryn’s livingroom wins a prize!” I have the entire Global Fusion Set…and now because of this last party I have the entire Ruby Red set of Decor also.
Everyone has their opinion on these types of Parties…but honestly there is no pressure intended, these are YOUR friends hosting them. I do every once in a while feel the pressure of becoming a consultant…even this last party my consultant approached me again about it…knowing I work full time and do not have the time.
Anyway…Party Lite is not bad, and I will continue to host parties, because I enjoy getting together with my friends. BTW it was a $450 dollar party! :)
Erika
September 19th, 2008 at 9:05 am
248I experienced my first partylite candle party about a month ago. I liked it. I didnt feel pressured to buy anything because the woman who invited me was a trusting friend of mine, and my real friends don’t like me for what I do or don’t have, they like me for who I am.
I decided to host a party, and I got a prize. (I didn’t do it so that I would get a prize, I did it because im infatuated with candles they relax me and I saw the discount my friend got and I wanted it)
A few days later I got a call from another girl from the party telling me she was going to be hosting my party because she had just joined to be a consultant so the original consultant set her up with some shows.
I was a little irritated that the consultant didnt call me herself to tell me she had handed off my show, but I let it go. I got the new consultants full name, because everytime I host these things I like to meet the hostest challenge, and this particular one is to have three outside orders before the show. Well, I did that with flying colors (Partylite is popular!) And they all sent me their checks made out to the new hostess.
4 days ago (My show is this sunday) I got a call from the original hostess. She said she might need to cancel my show or find someone else to do it because the new girl decided not to do partylite anymore. I had to go back to all my friends and family and ask them to write new checks. She finally said she would do it, and cancel her other commitment once I told her I already had sales.
The point im trying to make is yeah, that makes it seem like Partylite is not very organized, and the smallest of problems, attitude from a consultant, “Pushy” as you call it, etc… can really set us off and make us not want to buy the product because of the person. But thats not the candles fault. No matter how bitchy someone can get or how rude people can be, the candle will still burn.
I think deep down most people know what they are getting themselves into when they RSVP. The people who attend generally have a love for candles. And its true. I love the fact that I dont have to go scraping the bottom of the jar one a partylite candle burns out, or that I dont have a solid black ring like I do on the competators jars, and im willing to spend the extra buck for a social and someone to earn it telling me these interesting historical facts. Principles before personalities buddy!
Shelly
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:44 am
249I disagree, but respect your opinion (as it is just an opinion). I attend and host PartyLite parties because I love the product. I also let my guests know up front to not feel obligated to purchase anything, because whether or not they purchase, I’m still going to use the opportunity to purchase. If I get free stuff, bonus, if not, I’m spending money and so be it. Life goes on. Ditto for Pampered Chef. So you should add a “category” of people who just love the product – plain and simple.
Toula
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
250I am very upset to see these harsh comments about any direct sales business.
If you feel pressured to buy when you go to a show ask the “hostess” for a catalog and pass it around at work if you NEED to please her and you just HAVE to buy something.
I AM NOT a PartyLite Consultant but I like the candles and you can’t beat the quality.
Whenever I went to shows I went and had fun and enjoyed it so much. Sometimes I bought things, sometimes I didn’t. When I DID NOT buy any items the hostess and PartyLite consultant were as pleasant as they were when I did make a purchase.
You are letting your PEOPLE PLEASING GUILT rule you.
AGAIN… if you had a bad experience blame the consultant not the company.
I actually went to a show where I was very dissapointed with the presentation of the consultant, but she will either improve or not get any referals. I will certainly not attend another one of her shows. So I’m not worried about it. I went to a different show several months later and the consultant was so FUNNY and we all had a BLAST!
I prefer to sample items before I buy them so I love direct sales!!!
And my husband loves the items too. We have bought from Pampered Chef, Partylite, Avon, MaryKay etc.
Again its the TRY before you BUY approach and it works!
Also I do have to mention that I am not a shop-a-holic I just buy what I like and in moderation. My hubby will vouch for that.
Just my opinion :)
Rita
September 30th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
251I have Partylite shows all the time. I get hundreds of $ worth of the best burning candles and gifts I ever tried for the cost of shipping and tax. My friends and I visit have snacks,wine,gossip & fun together while a Partylite lady entertains us w/ product knowlegde,games and prizes, and we all LOVE it. The quality is so superior to most look alike products that can be purchased at Target, Walmart etc. I know that there’s NO metal in the wicks, the wax melts to an oil at such a low temp. that it wont cause burns. The candles are made in the USA w/ cotton wicks, essential oils and food grade parrifin wax & some soy. They don’t contain harmful chemicals so even many people w/ allergies can burn them in their home. I have a kid w/ breathing problems and can ONLY burn Partylite products w/ him around. You definitly don’t want to burn anything NOT made in the USA, God only knows what you’ll breathe! Also the the collectables/pieces wont tip over at a certain degree (I think it’s a 15 degree angle) nor will the touch temp. reach over 120 degrees. No other candle can make these claims.
So think what you like, I love the stuff and get it free.
Rita
September 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
252Oops, forgot something! Justin, if you were at a tealight party, it wasn’t Partylite. I never heard of a tealight party. Maybe you’re just bored and have gobs of time to complain?
KnowhowUfeel
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
253What is it with Direct Sales people? The products are great (candles, scrapbooking items, stamps, skincare..) the problem I have is with the Consultants or whatever they’re called in the business they are affiliated with: I’ll order, and they’re all excited about having a new customer, and they’ll process my order, tell me what I owe them….and then….nothing.
I’ll call & email (sometimes for weeks) and they’ve totally vanished!
If I am able to exchange my money for what I order, they may apologize for the Looooooong delay, but they don’t change. They don’t answer their emails when I ask when the next even is or whatever.
Do I stink? Lol!
What is it with these companies? They expect you to hold shows and expect all the friends you invited to buy so you can receive “rewards.” Give me a break.
Emily
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
254That’s why I am making my own crafts to sell and working for myself. I would never turn my business into a “multi-level” or “direct sales” affiliation.
It’s mine and mine alone.
Hooray for people who succeed with Partylite, Tupperware, Creative Memories, Stampin Up, etc., but it’s not for me. Except when I get stuff free from relatives and friends who sell this kind of thing. Lol.
linda
October 4th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
255I ran into this and couldn’t pass up the opportunity to post.
The bottom line on any of these home parties is that you are invited by friends, co-workers and relatives. I hate it when I am invited to these and usually say no, however my best friends daughter started selling candles and how do I say no? Of course I COULD say no, but it’s her daughter and she’s just getting started. At my second invite I had the guts to say I wasn’t interested.
The difference between a home party and retail store is that you don’t feel obligated to buy a candle (or whatever is being sold) when you walk into a store. When you go to a friends house you feel like you can’t leave until you purchase something. It has nothing to do with how pushy the sales consultant is, she could be the nicest person on the planet but I still feel obligated to buy something so my friend can get a prize,and after all she’s put out food and such for me so how can I walk away without a purchase?
I absolutely hate everything to do with home parties. Lets not pretend this is a fun evening out for friends. If I want to hang with my friends I host a dinner for them for free, no strings.
I like that Tupperware is now selling in malls. If I want something I can get it without the obligatory feelings associated with home parties.
Lisa
October 6th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
256Just image what would happen if you used this energy for something positive!
Me
October 8th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
257You’re an idiot
Erin
October 12th, 2008 at 10:56 am
258It sounds like you had / have a rotten consultant. When I attended my first Partylite show, it was by request of a friend who had been suckered into it. I reluctantly (I had no money) went because I cared about my friend – so I did it for her. I was pregnant at the time and I couldn’t stomach any scents… BUT, I was pleasantly suprised that Partylite fragrances didn’t make me ill! So I bought a set of votives. And I won some cool stuff too, which made me giddy. :) I then hosted a show myself. All my friends were thrilled to come except one who viewed it like you do. She actually had the most money out of all of us… so it wasn’t a lack of money issue. And she is a constant overspender, she just decided that she wanted nothing to do with hostess shows. Anyway, the consultant who helped me host my party was HORRIBLE! She was more than an hour late, was just unprofessional and scatter brained. She messed up a couple orders which was irritating to me to have to explain to friends. Because of the bad consultant – I pretty much walked away from Partylite. About a year later, when my little one was 10 months old – we were visiting another friend’s house. She had come to my first PL show and had been hooked ever since. She loved the colors, price and fragrances. I liked the scents too, but had really hated the consultant and I thought she represented the company. Anyway, long story short – my 10 month old pulled a burning candelabra down on herself, the purple candles splashed wax across her face and I literally screamed. I thought she would be disfigured for life!! I was beside myself. But the violet streams of wax, peeled off her face like nothing I’ve ever seen. There were no marks!!! That’s when I realized PL candles burned COOL. I found a new consultant and never bought another brand again. And I also became a consultant myself! I love PL, I think they’re pretty, I love that they are safer since I have children 5 and under. And I love getting together with people and having fun. :) I also love giving away products. Every order I place, I give about 20% in their total of free product! Because I love people’s smiles. :) I do Partlite, because I love people and I love the candles. Good combination. So to sum up… you had / have a sucky consultant. Don’t let this one person ruin your views on a company.
NICOLE
October 13th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
259thinking of joining i’m from the uk
confused about the £300 kit if i dont manage to sell that much do i have to pay for what i dont sell?
RuFus
October 15th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
260Yup.
Preach on my geeky bro.
My wife was a consultant, and I HATED every minute of it. They filled her full of lies like “Partylite is the only candle that doesn’t contain lead in the wick!” BS and “Partylite candles burn evenly all the way down!” and my favorite lie “Partylite wax will not stick to your carpet, just let is cool, and pull it out!” By the way, all candles in the US market must be lead free, the candles burn just like any otheres, and when they spill (from burning one side first [wifes party...]) the wax solidifies in my carpet, and it took hours of newspaper and an iron to remove 75% of it — the rest stayed indefinately.
They teah people to lie for them, so they don’t have too.
poe
October 17th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
261I have found another hater :) I was recently given two PL candles and they suck. While they burn nicely, there is almost no scent.
I have yet to find any candle with as strong a scent as Gold Canyons. While those are also direct sells, I suffer the phone calls asking me to host a party gladly. I have never hosted and never will, but there is no need as those candles sell themselves.
If you, like me, stumbled upon this blog looking for candle reviews, give Gold Canyon a try.
Lainey
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 am
262I got caught up in the Partylite web as well! I must admit that I really do like their wax, so much so that I even signed up to become a consultant. After spending much of my hard earned money to purchase a kit, I found that no one else I knew shared my interest quite as much. Although some of my friends & family wanted to purchase a couple of candles here & there, they were not about to subject their friends to a party let alone purchase the greatly overpriced candle accessories. So I figured since I already put out so much of my own money, I might as well hang in there. Although I won’t make a profit, maybe with just selling some wax to friends I could at least get my own candles at a discount.
I should mention that the “Cash Cows” stepped in and made me feel about an inch tall. A regional leader actually commented that I should never have been signed. I suppose I was never going to be a big earner but I still gave & continued to give my hard earned money. Whatever happened to working your schedule and doesn’t every dollar count since my upline got a cut of everything?
It got to the point that I was buying most of the candles myself. I should also mention that my leader scolded me for selling to my own mother at a discount as that wasn’t fair to all the other customers. Discount? Isn’t that my perogative? I could have paid the entire bill for her. After all, she is my Mom!
Aside from all that, I was still afraid to give it up. Somewhere in the back of my mind I kept thinking of that initial investment. Anyone involved with Partylite knows you have to continue to submit shows to remain a consultant. Thousands of my dollars later and all that grief I finally realized that I was just plain crazy.
Partylite is way overpriced plus because I live in Canada the prices are almost twice as high. I think what finally threw me off was them raising the prices of their tealights and votives. They wanted $11.95 for 12 little tealights. There was no discount after I paid my monthly fee plus shipping charges. I could easily buy Yankee products and shop at my leisure.
Network marketing is like a cult. You work that business, you lose all your real friends. All you’re left with is members of the cult. They’ll pump you up so you can keep earning them money.
Brenda
October 26th, 2008 at 2:57 am
263Justin,
I just read your opinion on PartyLite parties.
I LAUGHED out loud! I actually AGREE with you, but also like their products. I can’t tell you how many times I have been at these parties and had the EXACT same thoughts running through my mind! Many different parties, many different products.
I have a really great sollution though; the products that I like; I buy online (ebay, mysimon, amazon, shopzilla, etc.) It’s crazy how much money I save! I either make an excuse to not go to the parties, or go for the food & drinks (hopefully cocktails), and most of the time I don’t buy anything.
Don’t let anyone jump down your throat for your opinions; (they have all probably felt the same thing themselves at sometime).
Thanks for the laugh!!!!!
Brenda
October 26th, 2008 at 3:16 am
264ME, again.
Right after I submitted my comments on this, I decide to read approx. 40 of the comments posted here.
I had to laugh out loud again after reading #235. (Husband of a PL consultant).
THANK YOU for putting a little humor in my day!!!!!
P.S. SOME people have NO sense of humor!
Alex Stone
October 26th, 2008 at 9:31 am
265You should add some pictures of partylite products to this page, so you’ll come up first in Google Image search as well.
HappyH
October 27th, 2008 at 5:12 am
266I am so sorry that you had such a bad experience with PartLite and direct sales overall. I am not a PartyLite consultant, but a consultant for an other direct sales company. I absolutely love our products and I would have not started my business if I wasn`t sure it is the best prize and best available product out there. I met lots and lots of people who loved it, use it and enjoy it! I never ever pressure anybody to buy, because I wouldn`t like to be treated that way either. I just show them what I have, let them have fun and try everything on. If you don`t want to buy anything, DON`T BUY!!! You are an adult and have the choice to decide what you need and like. I don`t want to give my products to anybody who doesn`t fully wants them and will not use them. That is a waste, when I know there are others who would gladly use it. A good consultant never forces you to buy and you never see the money sign in her eyes. A good consultant cares about your NEEDS and wants and you financial limits and is interested in you as a person. I truly wish that you would meet someone like that some day and she will entirely change your views of direct sales companies. BTW,the products I sell are not available anywhere else besides from consultants. but they are fabulous. Now tell me, how would so many women enjoy it and love it if it wasn`t for the consultants, parties and hostesses? And, with me being a mom and all, this is the best possible way to spend enough time with my family and still help out financially.
I rest my case.
Mendy
November 6th, 2008 at 11:20 am
267Justin-way to go on bashing a company for your profit. Consultants and PartyLite consumers, Justin is just generating tons of cash off us revolting on his website. When you see this link on Google you get annoyed and have to click on it. You just made him money. He probably doesn’t really hate PartyLite, he just knows how popular PartyLite products are and figures he can cash in by posting a link so that everyone will click on it and see what it’s all about. I’m sure you have the same type of “blog post” self advertisment for yourself concerning Tupperware, Pampered Chef, HOme Interiors or any other popular brand. Now who’s the cash cow??
Jen
November 11th, 2008 at 12:04 am
268I will never have a party lite party again. I am a party consultanat and if I treated my customers the way my 2 consultants have treated me I wouldn’t be in business.My first consultant came to pick up my money for the party hours past the time she was suppose to with out a single phone call.Then when she got here did nothing but talk down a lady we both know that was at my party accusing her of being a non payer which has never been the case. Funny thing is this lady has had 6 parties with this consultant plus got her another 13 party booking just from hers.I then had to wait over 3 weeks for my order and it turns out the accusations were wrong and it was the wrong person.Let’s just say all the parties got cancelled.We also had to contact her to try and get our deposits back and she said she forgot she got some.On her nice little visit she complained about the hours she does and thinks all her recruits are useless.How lovely.We ended up with another consultant and when we booked we made it very clear we wanted a 3 week payment date but on the night she refused.We sat there and said fine we aren’t ordering and of course she changed her mind.She ended up with a $900.00 party.But now we are trying to contact her so we know what the host owes and of course she won’t return the calls.I bet she will ring when the payment is due and guess what for however long she takes to return our call is how long it will take for me to get back to her with payment.If you this us consultants are doing you a favour then think again we are the ones having the party for you to make money.If it wasn’t for the Host you wouldn’t make a cent.At this party we were told special items have to be paid by the 31st and would have it with in days and it is now 2 weeks and nothing.Still waiting for a call back.PARTY LITE SUX.
I am a Body shop @ home consultant and would never treat my customers like this……….
I Love PL
November 13th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
269I think you’re just letting 1 bad experience ruin it and not to metion all the negative stuff you said about the company. You have a lot of time to comment on others, what about yourself? You should give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others
Vanessa
November 15th, 2008 at 10:54 am
270I have received a party lite candle as a gift and sadly was not impressed. Shortly after I discovered Gold Canyon in August of 2008. I have been hooked every since! I purchased my first candle and can remember the sweet aroma of birthday cake as if it were yesterday. I contacted the demonstrator I purchased the candles from and asked how I could sell this wonderful product!
I joined the Gold Canyon team and have continued with success. I not only earned free candles that I love, but I also helped add to my household income. I am a stay at home mother, yet I have the privilege of saying I own a business and can work whenever I choose. I can give it my all when I’m wanting to buy the kids the best , yet I can also slow down when one becomes ill.
I truly feel blessed I was introduced to such a wonderful business! If your interested in sharing in some of my dreams please feel free to contact me and I can answer any questions you might have. Check out my website @
http://www.mygccandle.com/volivarez
Steve, by stander, GF went
November 16th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
271I will chime in here. Recently my girlfriend was invited to my neighbors house. My other neighbor was hosting and kind of pushed her way into the neighbors house, she is just a nice person.
She went and the representative (my neighbor) in her own way said some stuff to her that kind of insulted her. I told her it is just her and she meant no harm.
So today she got the candle she bought and I said, where is the vase or holder. She said it is only the candle. I replied you paid 18 bucks for a candle? She said yes and would never go to a party again.
Here is the problem. All these parties are hosted by people who know or know of the guests. There is an implied pressure as soon as you walk through the door. If you do not buy, you then hear rumors about how you came and bought nothing. Since she is a guest at my house she or I do not want that and it is utterly unfair.
I do not go to my male friends on the street and have them come over to look at my collection of porn mags and then guilt them into paying 4 times their worth.
I did a little search to see what this candle goes for. I did a couple of comparisons on the same candle size. Since wax is wax I don’t think we are dealing with much of a difference. Between 10-12 bucks, price goes down when you buy more, shipping is free when purchasing more than a certain amount.
So the mark up here is disgusting and what overhead do they have? also they have the nerve to charge you tax when using the neighbors utilities.
I can see these types of parties for items that are less available or for a specificity. I know a friend of mine does adult parties but all the attendees want to come.
you can justify the no pressure approach. But again, just showing up is pressure to buy.
GARY
November 21st, 2008 at 12:07 pm
272As a owner of a home party plan company (adult industry), I value Justin’s feedback very much. I then started reading the responses and I heard everything that I HATE to hear from consultants:
1. In several of the responses I hear the “I don’t understand why you would hate Partylite because I LOVE it and I get to choose my own hours etc etc”. In my personal opinion, YOU AREN’T GETTING IT, this is not about you…it is about Justin. He was the customer. He probably could care less about “why” you started your business or the reasons of “why” you are involved. How does that benefit him? Um…it doesn’t.
2. In several of the responses, there was individuals that wanted to do a party for him because they felt that they could offer a better experience. As a owner of a home party plan company, I grasp this concept. But again, this isn’t about you, this is about Justin. He already has his own feelings towards the candles and him not liking them isn’t going to make him want to run and scream to have a party, correct?
3. Then I heard responses regarding the product themselves. We aren’t on here to bash the product. If you don’t like it, that is your opinion, don’t buy it then.
NOW, here is what can be done:
If you are ever invited to a home party company and you are not interested in the product or you do not like the idea of being “pressured” there is only one option:
Decline the invitation and thank the host for thinking of you. Don’t knock her for having the party, don’t knock the product, don’t knock the consultant doing the show. Simply do not attend. However, if the sales person is a “pressure” style (I have been in the industry long enough to hear and see right through them) they will figure it out on their own when their sales are down or can’t beg to get a booking.
Lisa Lenchanko
December 7th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
273Wow, someone is very bitter. I was very entertaining to hear your ridiculous accusations. Maybe you just lack attention and figured this is how you could get someone to give you this attention. Well, here is another one for you. As far as Partylite goes…If you do your comparison shop, you may realize you were very wrong. Partylite has been in business for 35 years and is still a very strong company. I believe in their product and so do millions of others or they would not still be in business. But, we all have a right to our own “opinion”. You strike me as a person who can never be pleased. I hope you can become a more optimistic person.
Kylie
December 11th, 2008 at 3:44 am
274Hi,
I have recently been to several partylite candle parties, i would have to say that the product looks and smells amazing. So much so that i am looking at becoming a consultant for them, so if anyone in the nothern suburbs of melbourne would like a party, leave me a message
Kylie
Marie
December 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
275Tell me Party Lite Candles are not made in China.
Tell me that Party Lite Candles are Soy based and
not Petro Chemicles, which are Highly Toxic and
Carcinagenic.
Dee
December 15th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
276What most of the PartyLite people don’t understand is that some of us DO love the candles, we just hate going to the parties! If I could buy the candles WITHOUT wasting my time at these un-fun, boring, get-togethers, I would spend hundreds of dollars on the candles every year. Instead, I resort to buying lesser quality candles that I can get easily and quickly online without wasting an entire evening listening to the same pitch every time.
BTW, Avon sells online, you can get Tupperware at Amazon – but you can only buy PartyLites from a Stepford Wife at a party?
Get with the 21st Century PartyLite or you will become extinct.
Jim
January 1st, 2009 at 11:31 am
277Wow, having never heard about “Partylite” before, I feel like I’ve stepped into the twilight zone.
I do find it funny that we can be made to feel bad for ‘offending’ the host by not buying anything, yet, cannot make the host feel bad for offending us with pressure sales.
Anyway, I would like to reiterate the post just above mine -
“And as for the claims that PL are the “best” candles. Who fucking cares. That is like claiming to being the validictorian of summer school. At the end of the day your still an idiot.”
jamie
January 2nd, 2009 at 10:50 am
278i just wanted to post here that i have not read this entire thread, nor do i plan too. however, without partylite candles, my son and my husband would’ve been burned severely if we were using any other candles in our home. a candle fell off the counter, and spilled all over the two of them. the cool burning wax kept them from being burnt… a normal candle would’ve been excessively hot!
i’ve only found the products offered at Direct Sales parties to be the best, and I seek out the companies now without parties to purchase products on my own. they truly are the best in the market, and if they were put into stores – they would be so high that nobody would buy them. however, without the overhead expenses of those processes, they can keep the cost at a price that others will purchase them.
have a great day!
yabbadabbadoo
January 4th, 2009 at 9:29 am
279Came across this thread trying to make a follow up complaint on behalf of my sister who has been trying to get a refund on items purchased at a party 4 months ago.
As mentioned before the candle boxes are strongly scented but the candles when lit do not.
As for the free gift they are paid for but the guests. Anyone who buys from these feelings-obligated to buy from friend/familys party is paying the over heads, ie. the demontraters wages/expenses/conferences and the holiday partylite provides every year to ALL their reps, not to mention the demo goods and their consultant discounts, the brochures, and the hostesses FREEbies, free gifts for the condacending games…the list goes on.
Cheaper candles purchased elsewhere DO burn as well as long as they are looked after. Partylite reps seem to think snuffing a candle is partylites idea…before the electric light bulb candles /street lighting were used – these were snuffed out centuries ago!
If you love’em buy them… if you don’t then don’t attend!
Jenn
January 10th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
280Let me say this…I LOVE to support anyone who does direct sales from home but PARTYLITE candles aren’t the best candles for what one spends. Just my opinion. My husband’s brother’s wife became a partylite person about a year ago. I hosted one of her first parties. She is a pushy person but was even the a pushy saleperson. She became the worst “used car salesperson”. BUT as a sister-in-law…I ordered stuff that I thought I liked. NOW I know….I SPENT WAY TOO MUCH MONEY!!!! I bought TWO reed defussers (that I thought was a great deal…according to my sister in law as well) but the one I have gotten at Kohls was 3/4 the amount I paid for the partylite one and has lasted two months longer. I have also discovered that the big three wick candle that is $40 plus at partylite has no smell. You would think one could smell the $40 plus oozzing out of the candle….noooo. It wasn’t until I found some other candles that I had ordered from other parties and fundraisers from schools that I discovered I had wasted the $.
I LOVE the products that I have bought from Tupperware, Pamper Chef and Home Interiors (in fact…love Home Interiors candles) but, even though my sister in law sells this, I CAN NOT recommend partylite. TOO MUCH $ for crappy products.
Note…this is just my opinion…I like smelling my candles.
Jenn
January 10th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
281I do HAVE to agree w/232…Gold Cayon is really good candles. LOVE them…plus they were cheaper than partylite!
laurie
January 15th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
282yes, their customer service SUCKS and so do several of their consultants
Diane
January 27th, 2009 at 9:27 am
283I have not had time to read the vast amount of comments on this blod, I did read about a 3rd and I see some myths about Partylite that I would like to address.
First and formost, unlike Tupperware or many other home based businesses, you CAN NOT buy Partylite on-line. You may only buy it thru an independent consultant. I agree totally that it is wrong for other companies to make their product available any other way because it hurts the consultants.
Second, you are entitled to believe Partylite candles don’t smell or don’t smell good. As a consultant myself, I have found that many people have very different opinions on every scent but I have never met someone who doesn’t like anything we carry.
I also think there is confusion on what you said about the box. You mentioned that the scent was in the box. My candles smell awesome when I burn them. I wonder if you got a bad batch. (which I have never heard of but that is the only reason I can figure out that you say they don’t smell) Partylite has 100% gurantee. If you think that, they would gladly give your money back.
On the side of being ugly, that is definetly your opinion and not the opinion of most people.
The cost you are refering to…it is funny how you would think that the mark up isany more than you would pay at a retail store. Partylite does not have rent to pay for a store and they pay us a “commision” just like any other business. All of their products are hand made andvery fine quality. Just because you didn’t find anything you liked doesn’t mean it is junk.
I agree totally with you about most Direct selling businesses. I know the peer pressure is tough at these parties but it is better than the pressure at a party with drugs or alcohol. Just say no. :) I have had many parties thru many different businesses but Partylite is a true exception in my opinion.
Thank you for letting me post my opinion and I hope you never feel pressured to buy anything again.
Rose
January 30th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
284I just got back form a partylite spa party I had alot of fun! I bought a $10 dollar candle sampler set that was on sale and not becuase I was pressured because I wanted to try out the scents. High qualitiy candles are expensive everywhere you go why not help out your friend and get the best?? I plan on buying more candles from them in the future(when I have picked my scent) and hosting a show sometime cause it’s FUN!You went in with a bad attitude!! Change your attitude change your life!!
John for New Jersey
January 31st, 2009 at 10:12 am
285i like some of partylites candle. But they are to much money I had one party and that was the last party im having with partylite. I cant Believe that you get have to pay 2 sale taxes one is 10% and the other is 7% wow. And i dont like the fact that at every show they are talking about how much money they make and all the free VC’s days they get.
Kelly
February 8th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
286I feel like you make a statement that encompasses all direct sales. I’ve been to many direct sales parties, and I’ve even tried consulting for a couple of them. If you don’t like candles- don’t have a Partylite party. If you don’t like makeup, then don’t have a Mary Kay party. “Crap” is a relative term. I have found some direct sales companies that I love and am very loyal to because I love the product, and there are other companies that I could care less about. I’m not a big tupperware person, so you won’t ever see me doing one of those parties, but there are other companies that sell products that I’m interested in. Direct sales aren’t bad, you just need to make sure you only go to the parties where they are actually selling something you like and want- otherwise you are wasting your time, your friends’ time, and the consultant’s time- and you leave the party with a bitter taste in your mouth.
Kim
February 9th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
287I Love Party Lite. However, I love SCENTSY even better! No wicks, no fire hazard, just above body temp wax.. wax doesn’t evaporate just the scent!It uses a light bulb (25 or 15 watt) I love love love hem. I’m a Consultant!
I’ve been to lots of direct sales parties. PartyLite, Passion Parties, Jewelry, Tupperware, and never felt like I HAD to buy. I also don’t go unless I’m actually interested in buying, and I have a set limit of what I’ll spend before I go… most others I know who go to these do the same.
michelle
February 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
288I went to the Partylite web site and every single web page has prominent ads to host a party and to become a consultant but very little product information (other than photos). I wanted to know what was SO special about their candles and there’s nothing that tells you. Just pictures and ads to host a party/become a consultant. More to recruit people than to inform about the product itself. That tells me a lot about Partylite. I’ve had a few of the candles and they are pretty enough. But nothing special and the scents don’t last. They are making lots of money on the backs of their consultants/hostesses. It’s too bad really.
Susan
February 12th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
289I just have to say that “I LOVE PARTYLITE!!!!!!!!!”.. & Justin your way to tense you definetely need to “Relax with Wax”. You love Partylite too, you just dont know it yet!
Amy
February 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
290Right on, Justin!! I only go to these rediculous parties (any direct marketing party is rediculous in my book) when it is a close friend or relative and I do it to support them. I HATE every minute of the party and have rarely bought anything that was worth having (Pampered Chef would be the exception). Partylite is THE WORST! There isn’t anything in the catelog I wanted and not a single item worth the price they are charging. Oh and just wait until you get your overpriced item that was the only thing in the catelog that you would even consider having in your home (the hanging votive lantern in my case) and it is only about 8″ tall and wouldn’t light up a closet on a good day…much less part of a walkway…
Amy
February 19th, 2009 at 10:48 am
291Everyone is subject to their own opinions on what they like and dislike. It looks to me that the pros outweigh the cons in this feed. Sorry to hear that just a handful of people, if that many, do not like the product. It happens in this type of business as well as at any major department store, grocery store, or wal-mart/target/kmart etc. There is no need to get all worked up over it though. I sell Partylite Candles and love what I do and love the products that I sell. I have not had a single complaint from a customer; only people calling me back to purchase more. The candles are not as overwhelming as some that you can buy at other retailers. They have a delicate scent to them that will not drive you out of your home choking. I used to burn candles from White Barn Candle Company as well as their oils but found that I could only stand them for only a few minutes before gagging from the too powerful scent. My husband DID NOT like them and would not allow me to burn them when he was home. Then I found Partylite. Now that I am a Partylite consultant he comes home from work and lights the PL candles. He thought that he would not like them but has found that he too LOVES them! If you are unable to smell them then maybe you are burning too small of a candle in a large room. I use tealights in our bathrooms and votives or larger in the other rooms of our home. Since we are all subject to our own opinions, just thought that I would share mine. Thanks!
PN
February 25th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
292I think this is quite funny. Justin, you are sure getting the attention you wanted. I think is sexy actually even though I have no clue what you look like. I hope it gets as big as you want it.
Chow
Louise Evans
February 28th, 2009 at 5:21 am
293Hi
Doesn’t it work the same as shops if you don’t like the product or are not interested in the product, then you wouldn’t go in the shop and buy it???
Surely people are strong enough to do that? if they don’t like candles they won’t go to a candle party??????
jenni
February 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
294All I can say is how sad you partylite candle freaks are !!! I mean theres humans dying every minute of the day from starvation/lack of water/war etc.and all your bothered about is how a friggin wick burns….. feel sorry for your poor husbands bet you have plenty of intelligent thought provoking conversations,well probably not.Your husbands are probably bored senseless and rogering someone else who has a personality.What the hell do they do at these conventions?…scary brain washing( I very much doubt theres much brains to wash though)
Have you seen the prices of these bloody things too!! I mean you must have more money than sense to pay 40 quid plus for bleedin` candles.The only time I use candles is when my electric metre has run out of credit and I`m skint,or I don`t have lighter/matches.The only thing I use to scent my home is incense sticks,Indian ones called Nag Champa( Sai Baba are best get `em of Ebay) smell great and really cheap.
You can`t really earn that much from selling candles surely !! and then they give you discount so you end up spending your earnings on guess what ?- candles….why not get a proper job.
Debbie
March 5th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
295I am a PartyLite Consultant also. I will agree that some direct sell tactics are quite pushy, but I have never been treated that way with PL. It does sound like you had a very bad experience, I apologize for that! No-one should ever be made to feel that way.
In your BLOG you say that you cant smell them when they are burning (either can my Mother) rather only when in the box. I find that so strange b/c I have candles that are (5) years old and they still have a scent. Maybe you need a stronger scent!!!
As far as the cost goes, yes you can buy cheaper candles but in the long run you pay more. I say this because if you buy a 3″ x 5″ round pillar candle and you do what we call hug your candle every (3) hours of burning, your candle will burn for approx. 65-70 hours and will be as flat as a frisbee (if done correctly). Store bought candles don’t, they will crack and then cause spillage. Store candles burn straight down the middle and half the candle is left when done burning. That’s definitely a waste of money in my opinion. What about you?
Most people who have responded to this BLOG have forgotten your main comment. I hate direct selling companies and consultants. not just any one company, PL was just your example. You hate ALL of them! I did not write to bad mouth you, but I do think that maybe you should give us, PartyLite, another chance, it really is a good product and company
Diane
March 12th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
296John from New Jersey:
You did not pay taxes 2x! You paid shipping and handling (10%) and sales tax (7%) If you had ordered something locally and had it shipped to your house…you would pay the same thing. Sorry that was not explained to you when you bought your Partylite products. The only thing I have ever gotten complaints about while selling Partylite was that buyers have to pay sales tax on the S/H. Unfortunately that is the governments doing. It is the law. :) Other than that, people understand that the product has to be shipped and UPS doesn’t work for free! (not to mention a big box of candles weigh a TON)
Diane
March 12th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
297Michelle:
Partylite’s website is set up so you can contact one of us so we can tell you about every one of our products! There is so much to tell, you don’t need to read about it, you need to contact a consultant and then she can tell you about the things that you are interested in. If you get a consultant, their personal website has more information as well. Sorry you didn’t find what you wanted. Most people that look up Partylite already know about us and want a consultant.
Diane
March 12th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
298Jenni:
First of all…us “Partylite Freaks” as you call us are not airheads as you believe because we like candles! I am sure you have something you buy that makes you feel good. I personally have my own business (Partylite and also work for a major airline. I have 2 “real jobs”! Because of my real jobs we were able to keep our house when all of this “recession” started and my husbands company laid him off! As for us being uncaring about issues of the world…We collect donations year round for Cancer Research, and have tons of Relay for life teams. Partylite donates to Extream Home Makeover. (who helps many of those people you named) They also donate TONS of candles for the luminaries at all of the Relay for Life events.
Just because candles are not “your thing” doesn’t mean we spend ALL of our money on useless stuff! I actually donate most of my earnings from Partylite to Youth teams in our area. I sell Partylite for fun and to spend good times with good people! But when I needed Partylite, they were there to pay my bills!
Lori
March 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
299I used to sell Partylite. I only stopped selling because my husband was deployed and I work long enough hours at my ‘real’ job and thought spending more time with my kids was more important at this point. I really loved selling it, mostly because I actually really like the product. It’s good quality, not cheap dollar store/Walmart crap.
You can hate direct selling companies and consultants all you want, but the fact is that you only hate us because you feel pressured to buy something or throw a party. If you actually had a set, and yes I said set, you would be able to say ‘No thank you’ like your Mama taught you to.
Not all of us do it for the money, although it is a really nice benefit. Some of us do it because we actually like to. Not all of us are pushy either. I always set up my order table in another room and let them come to me. I would tell them to please not feel pressured to have a party, but explain the benefits they would receive if they did. I never gave anyone a dirty look or sneer because they didn’t purchase $100 worth of stuff, and everyone who came to my shows got something free from me, whether it was just a tealight or maybe even a small jar candle.
So you can say you hate us all you want, but like I said, you just don’t have the balls to say no to someone and can’t figure out that’s all it really takes.
Shelley
March 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
300WOW..
Why all the bad attitudes. I just became a PartyLite consultant and I love it. You talk about the price.. Ok, let me tell you, I just had a party and with the few friends that the hostess had, she made $110.00 in FREE product… What do you get free when you go into a retail store? I didn’t believe it.. I even added it up twice. She had such a good time being able to pick even the things that she normally wouldn’t be able to buy because of the prices.
And about the scent.. OMG, my candles smell wonderful (out of the box). Maybe it was the scent that was a little scent like vanilla or relax.
If it helps pay my bills and gives me some FREE candles, I am all for it.. With the way the world is right now, don’t complain.. There are enough complainer already. Like someone already said, don’t want to buy it, don’t go. You are ASKED to attend not DEMANDED…
And before you knock it, I dare you to try it.
From the crzycandlelady in Kansas
Hey Justin,
hockeymom
March 18th, 2009 at 6:34 am
301Justin…..bottom line is you have nothing better to do than bash all of those stay at home mom’s trying to help bring in a second income without taking away from being a mom….being a room mother, going on field trips, or just the quality time you can spend with your kids every day. My husband and I have 6 children, a yours, mine and ours family and we love spending time with our kids. Unfortunately, with the economy so bad right now and jobs being cut, my husbands was one of them so my industry job is what we are living on with his little bit of unemployment. If he was working and I could find one of these 3rd party jobs to allow me to be at home more with my children I would. We have one in travel hockey, 2 other playing house hockey, twins that are just over a year and another son that is taking extra art classes….I don’t have that luxury of being able to take on any parental help to any of there teams unless it is after work……So my hat is off to those single mom’s, or married mom’s that are doing this to help with the monthly bills and still able to spend time with their children. If I could I would be right there with you! Only one more point to Justin…….have you ever burned a partylite candle……even just a tealight or votive…..why don’t you try…..test it against one of your so called store bought cheaper versions…..and tell me what is left from both of them when that flame will no longer burn. Partylite candle….absolutely nothing but the metal piece the wicke was stuck in….store bought cheap candles…black soot on anything close to it and wax left around the edges because it didn’t melt and all of those black little round sooty looking clumps from the wicke….very unattractive and a mess to clean up. Get a life, Grow up and stop bashing every americans way of providing for their families…Amen!
Vicki
March 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
302This all started with you Justin. Nobody has to defend partylite, no i am not a consultant, no i do not have parties at my house, I do however show the catalogue to friends and family and if they wish to order then so be it. I do not get affended at all if they do not buy.
First of all i have been buying candles for many years, not just from partylite, i started buying candles from cheap shops then upgraded as they did not smell at all.
When people come to my home they coment on the smell i have around my home, I have the mulberry smell everywhere and love it.
For everyone else out there dont defend partylite or their consultants, theres no need as we all know a males point of view to have a good time is to sit in front of the telly and watch the footy or cricket etc. and a mans idea of a great smell is when they sit in the toilet for over half an hour reading their magazines. sorry partylite cant accomodate your smell buds Justin!!!!!!!
Deb
March 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am
303I can’t believe this blog that Justin started over two years about ONE topic- direct sales Re: PartyLite is still going on. Way to go Justin for keeping the conversation going.
Vi
March 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
304Well, to each HIS or HER own. I hosted Partylite yesterday and we had a good time. I have decided to be a consultant. I love the products. And I’m not one for bathmouthing any business. Selling candles is not illegal or immoral. In this economic climate, it pays to have a Plan B and C going on. I never allow negative comments to deter me.
Lena
March 23rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
305I do not sell Partylite but sell for another direct sales candle company. I was a national sales leader for another party plan before coming over. I know lots of women and men who have been ‘blessed’ in these home parties. I have two children with disabilities that need food put on the table….the amount of time at specialists offices, iep meetings, sick times, and the usual school schedules that parents have to contend with not to mention the gazillion snow days we have….direct sales has helped me give my kids the attention they need and have allowed me to stay at home with them (since what corporate job would want me to take off so much). Maybe one day Justin, you will be a parent or a grandparent and understand why so many WISE people choose direct sales. I don’t know the last time I went into a Walmart or any store and was greeted with a smile and asked if I found everything I was looking for and even a cup of coffee. If you are truly as smart as you try to come across Justin, it would serve you better to hang out at more home parties. Thank you for purchasing that thing you don’t think you really need…it may be the commission on that that paid off a dr bill for that consultant’s child.
renee
March 24th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
306WOW….can i say jerk,justin!!! No one forces these women to go to these party’s and nor are they forced to purchase these candles, which by the way are great candles. sounds like you are just suffering from little mans complex! Can you not afford to buy them????
sharon
March 25th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
307i got knonw to partlite through a freind i ordered in dec and am still awaitng they are quick at taking the money out the account but not quick at providing the goods any idea who i can contact my rep has so let me down i will never trust another party light consultant again
Tammy
April 1st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
308LOL This is crazy, who cares? Everyone likes different things…deal with it. I love candles, and I am willing to pay for the good stuff, and yes there is a difference, and yes I notice. I don’t buy cheap toilet paper either and there is no one pressuring me to buy the quality stuff! hehehehe
Lastly, can’t we all just get along? Learn to say no people! Spend your money on things YOU really really like…you earned it!
Tam
Justin
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 am
309Tammy,
What I find entertaining is I didn’t really “bash” anything just wrote about my experience, lol, and its getting ripped to shreds by crazy women with handbags full of bricks, I dunno. But its entertaining me.. and has been for years!
Tammy
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
310You know Justin, by the time I got to about the 24th post, I totally forgot what you even wrote in the first place! Apparently people take their candles seriously man….next time you should stick to less controversial topics like world hunger or the war, just to be on the safe side and avoid brick filled purses to the face!
Tam :D
Justin
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
311Tammy,
Are you kidding? Some of my most popular writings are about topics such as this, maybe it’s me saying what people dont want to read; but you found it!
I really don’t mean any true harm to anyone about the topic — I’ve come to learn that I am not a fan of MLM companies at all, but Partylite was the first of my many experiences with them. My new favorite one (and next pick on topic) is that enlyten crap that started here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Sure it might get me beat up, but I’m a pretty large and intimidating guy myself :)
Bricks in purses still beat all the crazy assholes in the world who feel like guns are the way to solve all their problems!
Thanks for your input to the discussion, surf around — might find something else interesting enough to read.
Ariel
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
312This thread has been going on for over 2 years?! I just google searched this after reading a random LJ comment to see what “partylite” candles were. Lol forever.
This thread was so enjoyable I’m going to check out the rest of your blog now.
Christina
April 5th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
313I kinda skimmed threw this considering there is so many replys. I had a partylite party and I personally love the product……that said there are some things logically I thought were kinda looked past in the entire thing.
In a normal retail environment you pay X amount of money for a product which is marked up from it cost to make. From the profit the company has to pay for cost to make the product, shipping to their store location, employees to sell and maintain the product, rent, electricity, ect. The more product they sell the more they can afford to do and make as a profit. So you spend your money on the item and all the other things costing the company to provide you that item. It seems to me with companies like partylite the concept is the same but the money is distributed differently. You spend X amount of money on a product but money doesn’t have to go to rent, electric, employees instead you pay for the cost of the product, shipping and then you still spend more but instead of it going other places it is used to get more things for the hostess and the employee which ironically provide all the things the store would have to pay for (rent and all) but instead of having to sell so much to break even and starting out at a loss if you don’t sell anything you don’t loose anything and the more “profit” is made the more goes to the people who work hard for it and took time out to provide space and such for it.
My issue with partylite is that I want to become a consultant but the training system is to lax….I have been trying to get the ball rolling in order to start up and the people who are suppose to be helping me aren’t around to help me, and the system is set up that you have to get in threw someone else….I am really someone who works best on my own and in my own way and if I were given all the information I needed I would be able to do what I need to do without the “pep talks” but I feel I have no support and short of being rude I feel like the whole thing is falling out under my feet.
Well that is my take.
Pange
April 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
314I never would have thought that candles would stir this much controversy! Haha, hilarious!
I’ve never heard of Partylite before, but I’ve definitely attended a party similar to this hosted by friends, and I’ve definitely felt obligated to purchase a product. I have a candle in a tin that I’ve had in my drawer for months now that I will probably never use. Next time I’ll “forget” my wallet!
Justin
April 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
315Pange,
It is quite hysterical. However, the “death wishes, warnings, and threats” received via email has been quite unwelcoming. However, my information is quite public so if anyone is seriously that freaking nuts-o about Partylite and their precious candles that blah blah blah and smell like blah blah blah and dont leave blah blah blah, give me a knock!
Checked out your frozen flower website, will be watching you. Keep in touch, on twitter too, twitter.com/justinshattuck follow away!
Rachel
April 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
316To CHRISTINE on 4/05 – just do it! I am a consultant and I do it on my own. I run my business by receiving all my training and info online through PL’s very resourceful web site. If I feel like attending a unit meeting I will, but otherwise I just happily run my business. Make money when I want to and when I don’t need it or have the extra time, I just lay low for a while. It’s great. The product is great – but obvisouly not for everyone. You should at least give it a try if you have the desire. It’s been a good experience for me. Good Luck!
André
April 13th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
317Feb 21, 2007 – April 14, 2009…. and counting, Dude you rock! I don’t think that you could have picked a more longstanding issue than direct selling organizations. I have a take it or leave it attitude towards stuff but I can’t say the same for the rest of your, “fans.”
P.S. Do people realize that the discussion point is not so much about Partylite but is more about direct selling organizations?
Aunt Sally
April 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
318Get a life, Dude!
Peg
April 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
319I too have a problem with going to the parties as most of the ones I have been to try to pressure you to buy things. I am not saying that I don’t like their products, I am just saying that I don’t like feeling pressured to buy. I love the party lite products. I have several different things in my house made by them. Most were given to me as gifts as my daughter in law was a consultant at one time. The candles do burn much cleaner and “cooler” than other candles. I just wish there were a way to buy them without having to go to a party. I know that lots of women enjoy going to parties, more for the social aspect than for the “buying” aspect. And if they see something they really like and want in their house, then that is fine. I am just not one that likes going to parties for any reason. I am more a homebody that would rather spend the evening with my husband than to go to a friends house with a bunch of women.
Bonnie
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 am
320Hi,
I personally have not attended a Partlite party. But being a party consultant for many different party plans in the past and also having many different parties in my home I have a definite opinion. As with all home parties people are trying to make a living or earn extra money. This enables them to set their own hours and goals and to be able to be home for their families or too do other jobs. It is a great way to get together with friends and family and to learn about new products and gifts and just to have fun. It is a great and easy way to receive items you may want or to get gifts for others. No one makes you buy anything. JUST SAY NO! I never push my customers or friends to buy anything. Also lets look at the incentive programs for hostesses they gain too for having a party in their home. And why not they are the ones opening up their home. Also there is a lot to be said for people that are willing to get out there to work and not sit home wondering where thye might get extra money. They are working something some people seem to be allergic too! I you do not like those kind of parties don’t go. If you go and do not see anything you like don’t buy it. But don’t knock someone who is trying to better themselves and to help others.
Christina
April 24th, 2009 at 9:56 am
321To Rachel April 13th
Thanks hun! I am finishing up my starter show now and then I get to try to find my base in a military town with no friends or family around but I know once I get started I will be ok….just getting out there and known. It is great to hear positive things from other people who have done this!
Yvette P.
May 12th, 2009 at 11:57 am
322Hi Christina,
I also just finished my starter show, It was wonderful. I was at one time skeptical about direct sell businesses, but I wanted to give this a try. I work full-time in a strenous technical environment, so doing this on the side is refreshing and you get to meet people. My 1st show I invited all my condo neighbors, many came out others requested a catalog. I have the support of my husband and son, so we will see where this goes.
Take care,
Yvette the Blessed One
Staci
May 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
323I just want to say that I love PartyLite. I was a consultant many years ago and loved it then, still love it. I am actually going to be doing my re-starter show next week and really excited about it. I stopped for a while to start my family and now that I have done that I am ready to go back and work with PartyLite again. I usually give away so many candles at parties because I LOVE the candles so much. I have always tried to explain to people that the candle holders are expensive and thats when it is nice to host a show (so you can get it free) and just buy the candles at the parties you attend, which I think are the best on the market. No black smoke…and they smell great, even if you leave it in a closet for a few years.
Barbara
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
324Hey Justin,
This website is just to flippin funny. I am a consultant, just started, yes a newbie. But, I think you have a right to your own thoughts along with all the rest on this crazy website I just happened to see. I just have one suggestion for all that say it has no scent….try walking out of the room and get fresh air in those lungs and nostrils…dont hurt yourself now… then walk into the room that beautiful candle is burning in…be careful from lightheadedness from taking to big of a breath… and take a big whiff.
If you cant smell it then stop smoking what you are and wait for the smoke to clear from the room and in your head.
Thank you. Justin I feel no need to hit you with my bag full of bricks because your lil speel here made me laugh so hard that i will be coming back to get some more.
Laurie
May 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
325I’m amazed at how long this thread has been running! I’m also a Partylite Consultant (UL), and I love this company. I was a consultant for another company many years ago, but they just don’t compare! I am active duty military, and wanted to pay off some bills before I retire. Now, a year later, I know I’ll be doing this full time instead. We offer a fantastic product, ways to get some of it free or at a discount, as well as a great job opportunity. I am a NO PRESSURE consultant, as was my consultant who sponsored me. We don’t need to pressure, because our product sells itself.
Sorry you had a bad experience, Justin. As with everything else, there are bad apples in every bunch. I’ve made my share of mistakes, but I’ve always taken care of my customers when that happens.
Direct sales has a lot to offer, and while I respect your opinion, I find it hard to justify judging the entire direct-selling industry, or Partylite based on a single experience.
I hope you’ll give another consultant a chance sometime. As for your scents, it could be you just ordered a scent that wasn’t strong enough. Everyone has different palates, and you just might need something different.
Best
Laurie
a girl
June 25th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
326Dear People Reading This-
This little troll makes money every time you post a comment. He doesn’t care what you have to say on the subject of PartyLite and is actually benefiting from your outrage. He is intentionally controversial and insulting (oh yes you are Justin, years later saying you’re so “innocent” and others are over zealous) and active in the comments JUST SO HE CAN MAKE AD REVENUE.
I would recommend that people STOP POSTING comments (yes, I realize that I just posted a comment to say that) and his inflammatory blog will finally disappear into the ether.
Whether or not the comment survives on the thread here.. at least I tried.
Ann P
June 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
327Justin,
Let me enLIGHTen you about Partylite. I am a returning Consultant to partylite. I would not work for any other DS company out there. Partylite stands for Quality and Satisfaction. Partylite is the cleanest burning candle on the market. If you have small children in your home you can burn one of candles and be assured that if for some reason the candle should get knocked over that candle will extinguish its self before the first drop of wax hits the table. The wax/oil mixture will never ever leave burn or blister on your child or ruin your furniture, as they do not get hot; warm yes but never ever hot. The clean up of that candle will be the easiest of any candle on the market; just let it rest a minute to harden and then use a rubber scrapper and whoa la its lifts off of the furniture or the fabric and then just wash the fabric clean. yes you might buy knock off merchandise at target or walmart of our candles and accessories but I can tell from experience it will not be of durability or quality.
I truly do not understand why you have to pick on Partylite….
one suggestion for you…. maybe you should clean up the dirty gym socks, clean the carpets and drapes so when you burn the candle you received when you attended the home show you will be able to enjoy the unparalleled aroma that this company has become known for. sign me a SATISFIED CUSTOMER and EXTREMELY HAPPY CONSULTANT!
Northern Gal
July 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
328Just proves any moron can have a blog!
Stop wiping your a** with the newspaper and read some stats on the BILLIONS of $ generated each year through Direct Sales…I dare YA!
It’ happens to be the one aspect of our economy that is still generating money through the toughest economy in years!
I can stand ignorant people…much less ones that are intimidated by women.
Have fun buying your second rate product online.
Jenn
July 12th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
329Quite funny that everyone wants to harass you on this matter. My heart goes out to you–while I have never attended a PL party, my mother used to drag me to tupperware and Mary Kay functions. I hated it..
If Partylite was indeed about spending time with friends/family/whatever…then why would you use the Partylite candles as a pretense? Why would you feel the need to push something on them? Can’t you enjoy such quality time without that?
And yes, I’ll have a, “fablous,” day…whatever that is.
Jennifer Morrison
July 13th, 2009 at 10:08 am
330My name is Jennifer and I live in Kansas close to Missouri. When I tried to help my sister by attending this partylite party, I ended up having my checking account overdraw and lost money because Kandace Dietz would not deliver the products on time. When I had decided that waiting patiently for her to cash my check, she finally decides to cash it after I said to cancel my order. Kandace Dietz is a money digger.
ray
July 15th, 2009 at 9:33 am
331well an opion from a guy, my g/f has been a consultant and ive been to a number of her shows i knew just as much about the candles as she didand also helped out inher presentationsand offer tips to others at shows , as far as the cents are concern, thre the best there area few others onthe market that are goodwith any scent after u burn them and become accustom to the scent u reall dont smell them buti have people come inte house that havent been inthe house and ask what is the scent and i tell them it a pl candle heres a tip justin light a candle in ur smallest room close the door and wait a hr then openthe door u wil get a rush of csent fromthe candle as with any scent that u have in ur home when around it long enough u get use tothe scent hope this clears some of this up from a mans point of veiw
pss ihve havent ever had a problem with an consualtant once even consualtants that i have bought things from after the g/f an i broke up, even to the point that i received a three wick free
Renee
July 16th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
332Its too bad you had such a bad experience. I’ve been to many home sells party’s and I often never buy anything and have never felt pressured.
My sister Loves party lite candles. I have one. Its really nice that they do not burn hot. Yet, I still do not trust any petroleum based candle. The fact that it burns cool is what keeps it safe from giving out toxic fumes. That is a plus because any burned petroleum is toxic to the lungs, which is why I’m sticking with pure Beeswax candles. I still like unscented pure beeswax. They burn slow, cool and pure and last such a long time, plus uses only the purest cotton wicks. (I get mine at health food stores or co-ops. The cost is about the same too. They last longer than any candle out there.
Renee
July 16th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
333PS, Only a Co- Dependent personality type would feel they have to live up to group expectations and buy stuff to please them. Silly. You should see yourself through your own eyes….not see yourself through the eyes of others. You do not have to live up to anyone s expectations but your own.
Susan Regal
July 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
334Justin,
You are completely entitled to your opinion (an opinion with which I totally agree). Hang in there… just because the partylite groupies are bombarding you with posts about how great their products are doesn’t mean it’s true. They’re just worried that your comments will cut into their profits. Partylite products are pushed on to people and it is obnoxious.
Susan
Justin
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
335You try, but you fail. I do not make any money from your responses. But good try (approved!)
Justin
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
336It’s been over two years and they keep rolling in. At least the “threats” have stopped thus far, thanks.
Jim
July 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
337Justin’s first comment certainly melted a few candles. I’m not sure some of the wicks go the whole way to the top. If you need a reason to get together, plan a gathering and invite people. Feed them, talk to them, gather around the piano or karaoke machine and sing. But don’t plan a party hoping to sell something and then state it doesn’t matter if anyone buys or not. Of course it matters or you wouldn’t set up the party. Each individual consultant handles the party is a different way, but some of them on this blog were down right rude. I only skimmed some of the responses, but I didn’t see any other consultant reprimand another for being rude to Justin. Life is too short to be this concerned about candles. If you see yourself getting upset with Justin’s opinion…find a hobby that is more fulfilling to your personal life. I just bought $4 worth of pillar candles from the dollar store. They light up the room. They burn down. They produce an odor. And I could enjoy chatting with my guests about life, not candles.
Rachel
July 29th, 2009 at 10:55 am
338I Strongly disagree with this statement. Partylite consultants like anyother consultant are simply trying to make the product known to the public it is completely up to you whether or not you would like to purchase an item, and lets be adults Here, If I were in that position I could care less If I was the only One not buying, In the end its Your budget Am I right??. And Secondly by coming to a Candle lite party you should know what it is your attending, much like Any other party. So If your feeling uncomfortable or pressured, hey Its you that had decided to attend the event, And Im sure your Adult enough to make your Own choices.
Tabitha
July 29th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
339Ok, first, “save her from the swarm of consultants that could potentially attack her” Were you at a partylite party because there is only ONE consultant for the show. Secondly, people attend these shows of their own free will, there is no hiding that we are selling candles at these shows, if someone doens’t want to buy something then DONT GO!, Additionally, I have NEVER, nor as any of my leaders, or other co-consultants EVER pressured anyone to buy something the didn’t want. I don’t want to make people uncomfortable personally and its bad business. If you make someone feel like that when they do want to buy something they won’t be coming to you. Additionally the thoughts you listed going through peoples heads..do you really know what goes through all of these peoples heads, because those thoughts to me sound like a very insecure person, to buy something just to make someone else happy. If I don’t want, need or can afford something I’m not going to buy it no matter who it upsets, if you are my friend, family or co-worker you will unerstand that. As a consultant I understand that for my customers. You think these programs are ridiculous? Well let me share my opinion with you, I am a single mom, and I am active duty military, I don’t get a lot of time to go out and about to meet people, by being a conustant I get to meet a lot of people, it allows me to socialize and the perctage that I makes pays for the sitter that I need to be able to host a show. For most consultants, that is a big part of why the do it, to socialize to meet new people, its not just a job, we have those already!!!
And I would like to add, everyone here is quick to jump that it was a bad consultant, ya know, i really dont’ think it was, it seems that mr justin had this attitude before he showed up to the party since he described how he felt to his friend on the way to the party. So lets not jump to the conclusion she was a bad consultant.
Dana
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
340Direct sales and word of mouth is in the end much cheaper than advertising. Don’t ever believe that if Target sold the exact same product that they could sell it cheaper. Advertising is VERY expensive and direct sales is by far the best way to control your advertising cost. I would rather pay sales consultants and give them the incentive to do my advertising for me (in essance, word of mouth) rather than pay big bucks to an advertising firm.
Sorry Justin, I don’t think that you have a good grasp on certain thinks. There is nothing wrong with direct sales and anytime someone mentions a resturant they ate at, a place they shoped or a doctor they went to see you best believe it is direct sales.
Dana
Jake
August 10th, 2009 at 9:41 am
341Preach on brother!! My G/F did one of these. The candles do not smell when burnt, they do in the box but that’s it. The melts do work, I will agree with whom ever posted it, but they are no better then Glade scented oils. I love that the credit you earn is only good for full price items and you can’t use it on half price items and specials. I ended up paying 130 bucks more past the show for my so called “free stuff” The pressure to book a party past yours (you get less credit/offers if you don’t) was obvious through a worksheet that stated what you earned with and without a booking. We are done with partylite, wish I could have seen this first. Also the biased consultants are the only ones positive about the shitte since they are the only ones making money.
sandy
August 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
342Wow,
Too crazy. Free world still and everyones opinion still matters. Interesting blog.People sure are loving Partylite candles though. I found this blog looking for candle making supplies. However, I might just have to look up this candle company they sound great.
Brian
August 13th, 2009 at 7:22 am
343I was just looking up ‘Partylite’ because I saw the name displayed on a vehicle window. What an amazing long thread. I pretty much agree with you, Justin. However, if the “tea and candles’ social aspect of the party is appealing, I guess one would like this sort of thing. Nothing wrong with that. Personally, I think most candles are way overpriced, considering the cost of the raw components. Spoken like a man, huh.
Katy Haney (VA)
August 14th, 2009 at 8:57 am
344I don’t do candles at all- can’t stand the soot and smoke and the risk of fires so i sell Scentsy. It’s amazing, the choice of warmers are beautiful and there are over 80 scents to pick from. i’m currently looking for women to start selling this amazing product. the company is fairly new (5 years old) and is really just making its boom. they are located in Idaho but have consultants all over. let me know if i can introduce you to Scentsy. =)
Carrie
August 15th, 2009 at 10:07 am
345Justin,
Apparently, you were not in a group with your closest friends. Since you were a guest of someone, I can understand how you feel. I once went to a hostess party for another subject, not knowing them well, was met with the looks that you arent buying anything.
However, if I attend a party of my closest friends, I am never met with disappointment. A lot of the time it is having the number of bodies show up, so the Demonstrator will be happy with the turn out.
Yes, I do believe the Demonstrator looks for sales and is more of a go getter than the actual hostess. After all, these are the hostesses friends and family.
I happen to love partylite and will not only be attending the party, but I will also be placing an order for friends that cannot attend. My girlfriends are extremely excited about this party. This also gives all my friends I have had for over 20 years to meet one another.
The hostess doesnt care if I personally buy something. She understands my predicament. No one will look at me because I am making a purchase for someone else.
Problems solved. I love parties of all kinds. It gives women a chance to meet one another and once the ice is broken you are good to go.
Carrie
Ellie
August 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
346I read the multi-level marketing plan description on the Federal Trade Commission’s website and it is pretty damn close to describing Partylite. Some of my friends are trying to get me to have a show and I already have the packet. Everyone knows I might join and they were so happy…because they are going to make money off of me. I’ve read a long list of complaints about not receiving goods paid for and keeping the money too. I wonder if that is the actual company or the people from that particular team’s business. At any rate, it doesn’t help build a good name for Partylite if people are scamming others by using Partylite shows to pretty much steal other people’s money.
Tina
August 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
347I guess everyone can blame a company like Partylite for all there misfortune? You see it’s always easier to blame others. Maybe we as Americans just don’t know “how” to spend or “save” money…We have credit and get into serious trouble, look at the United States now? Maybe we would think of it differently if “We” had started Partylite and were financially stable? But as an average American, we have been suckered by bigger corporations and feel they have won, so once again…blame it on Partylite, it’s easier. We just need to educate ourselves in our own finances, then we can buy things and feel at ease about it. But we learn for a minute and go back to the same old ways, sad. Good Luck everyone, we all need it!
KristieK
August 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
348Ha! Justin’s a dumb dick.
Justin
August 17th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
349@KristieK
Oh my! Thank you so much, I have been waiting a few days now for another “awesome” comment such as yours. Way to be a go-getter! Thanks for your contribution :)
OhComeOn!
August 21st, 2009 at 6:45 pm
350RE:Hockeymom.
Birth control has its advantages. You should try it.
I’m with Justin.
Karen
August 23rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
351Hi im a new Partylite consultant and i just wanted to say im not pushy… Im more scared then pushy… I feel if you dont like something then why complain about it… I’m sorry but i know that there are millions that do love it.. And im not trying to sell it or push you into buying…But to everyone who loves it then love it… We consultants make on a regular day $100.00 For 3 hours. Do you make that a day Justin? We all get a paid vacation… Do you? I mean dude if you dont like it then ok but dont bash it cause we dont bash your job….And 99% are moms that need this… Like me.
Heather
August 25th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
352WOW…quite an interesting read. Everyone has an opinion. Crazy. Thanks for posting everyone.
sofie
August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 am
353It is really too bad that anyone would need to sell something to your friends to get together and have a good time. Especially like very expensive candles in an economy where some can hardly afford to purchase enough food for their families. I had a 9:00 am coffee and rolls get together and sent invitations as such. Everyone on my list attended and we had a ball. They all hugged me and thanked me for having the simple coffee and they didn’t need their checkbooks. More should do such. :-)
Jill
August 30th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
354I also am a PartyLite Consultant. I’m far from pushy. Having parties is fun and we sell a good product. It’s a shame u couldn’t just voice your opinion instead of bashing the PartyLite Company.
Oh by the way, looks like you are one of the people that you referred to as “being played the fool”. If you didn’t want or need the product, why did you buy it?
Just voicing my opinion!!
Jill
August 31st, 2009 at 10:50 am
355I too am a new consultant, and to voice an opinion from someone who is also a store manager for an establishment that people come to to buy items I do not see the difference. If you are going to subject yourself to buying something like a Yankee candel at the mall then how is attending one of these parties any diffrent??? At least you are in the comfort of fellow friends and you can stock up on some of your favorite things, that is the point of actually selling this. What is so nice about opinions is that they are neither right or wrong :) So if you don’t like it, simple, just don’t go :) Otherwise why waste your time writing a huge complaint about it because you have nothing else better to do. Speaking of which, time to get back to work :)
BTW Karen thank you for voicing your thoughts, I think people do get envious because in reality it isn’t something they could do in their everyday life. To be able to talk to people and be open and friendly can be difficult for some. However, for us that isn’t the case and for that we can reap the benefits :D
Laura
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm
356Do you feel that way about going into a store and buying something that isn’t on your list. Nobody is forced to buy. You need to have the will power to just say no thank you. If you can’t then I suspect it is time to look inward or find new friends.
Linda Barnes
September 4th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
357I love partylite. Have never been pressured by consultants. The products including candles are tasteful. Candles in the stores do not always compare and many are same price or more expensive than partylite. So,each to his own. My observation is: Justin is a guy; who has no idea how to create ambiance in a homehe seems angry; so sad.
Erika
September 6th, 2009 at 11:20 am
358I feel that most people go to these parties with the understanding that they are purchasing Partylite candles. If you don’t want to buy or can’t afford to buy don’t go to the party. I personally love these candles! They truly are superior to any other candle I have burned. I actually look for these parties so that I can buy more candles. I have, not once in 10 years, felt the consultants to be pushy or the product to be inferior. You always have the choice of not attending.
Ruth
September 8th, 2009 at 9:42 am
359Poor Justin…totally missing the point, why the hell did you go??? I have had one of just about every party plan get-togethers available over the years. Kitchenwares, ladies clothing, books, toys,kids clothing, makeup, the list goes on. Yes I have got some nice stuff however my friends amd their friends who came as their “bring a friend” were well aware that the goods on show were there IF THEY WANTED/NEEDED them and if not then just relax enjoy the day/night out and most of all have FUN, meeting new people and being out of their own routine environment. These last 2 points beiong a major need in many people. This need to socialise can be pretty strong especially for young mums with babies and toddlers who can not easily get to the shopping malls and buy an outfit or makeup with out a screaming child aborting the whole mission for them!! Also ,as a hostess on many occassion, my guests have eaten and drunk many times more food and drink value than I ever received in gifts from the person selling the gear. But remember I was doing it for the social enjoyment not to make money off the “group 2″ people. Now my babies are teens and I still have these get togethers, though much less regularly. I do not sell partylite candles but know many distributors and will be having one again in the future. I look forward to seeing all my friends again at mine and their party nights. Maybe you should get an attitude adjustment and see it from another angle before you judge others so harshly.
Jazlyn
September 11th, 2009 at 8:49 am
360Hey whats up with jerk face act? Many of these consultants including my friend do home based businesses so they can spend more time with their kids, so they don’t turn out to be jerks. Anyway it sounds more like you don’t like the home parties than partylite itself after all you liked it enough to buy something
Lin
September 12th, 2009 at 10:00 am
361I think the point of the original post is made by your reply
Karen says:
AUGUST 23, 2009 AT 4:39 PM
. . . We consultants make on a regular day $100.00 For 3 hours. Do you make that a day Justin? We all get a paid vacation…
Personally, I make that a day. I guess that the only difference is that I actually work and it’s an eight hour shift.
Ronny
September 14th, 2009 at 9:22 am
362Woman have been going to home parties for years and it’s a way for us to get out and see old and new friends..and as far as spending no consultant can make me buy what I don’t want to. But I will tell you out of all the woman I know that buy partylite and there are quite a few, they have continued to purchase the product for years now because of it’s quality, and no one twists there arms. I had the same hostess’s for years and they still call me, and there friends not the other way around. So Justin you are welcome to your thoughts but this is what most woman enjoy to do..Purchase a good item and have girl talk and refreshments all in one..We have done it for years and probably always will
Cindy
September 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
363I have also been a Partylite consultant off and on for several years. I agree with Karen, I don’t feel that we pressure people to buy our proucts. I enjoy getting together with most of the groups of people which I meet being a consultant, many of the relationships become friendships through networking. As far as I am concerened we are simply people selling a quality product, yes we want to make money like anyone else, by all means if you can’t afford or are not interested…don’t buy that applies to any shopping you may do.
Partylite Hater
September 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
364All of you partylite fanatics seriously need to get a grip on yourselves. They are just candles people-do your lives have no meaning at all that you get that excited about them? I hate getting invited to those stupid parties, all of my friends do too, they are such a waste of time and we all know you’re getting free product and we are all paying for it. Get a life.
Jennifer
September 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
365No one is forcing anyone to go to these parties or to buy things. When will people start taking responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming everyone else for their own decisions. I have been to these parties and never felt under any obligation to buy anything, and at a few I did not buy anything.
Gina
September 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
366Some of us actually enjoy Partylite candles. I burn them in my home all the time and find pleasure in doing so. If I felt I was going to be pressured into buying something I didn’t want or need at a gathering I would just not attend! The parties I have gone to were very fun. I have even hosted one because yes, I am guilty of wanting to get free stuff! I told my friends ahead of time that I didn’t want them to feel like they HAD to buy anything just come and see what was offered, possibly win free stuff and enjoy the gathering. As for the products, I feel they are more than worth the money. I bought a beautiful candle that burns more than 200 hours. That is 200 hours of my home smelling great and me enjoying the ambiance of its flame. I know not everyone has that same appreciation but it is more than worth the $30-$40 I spent. These candles are totally different then the some offered for a lesser price. I know this first hand from the soot they lesser quality candle left behind! Partylite burns extremely clean and all the way down to nothing, unlike other candles that are wasted 3/4 of the way through because they no longer stay lite! Everyone has their own opinion I just wanted to share mine because it differed completely from that of the original poster. In my opinion PARTYLITE ROCKS!
faith
September 19th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
367Thanks sofie, i enjoyed you outlook on bringing friends together. I want to be invited to things yet am in a financial crunch right now. I hate to miss out on a get together because i cant afford the items. So i usually buy things i dont need.
Joshua
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
368Hi, My nmae is Josh.
I am a consultant for Partylite to, Hi Karen. Partylite is great we are the only direct sales that you can get into for Free. No money down only a lot to gain. I just wanted to state that.
and we allhave fun doing it.
and yes Guys do sell partylite..
amanda
September 27th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
369If you didn’t like them why did you buy ? I am a consultant i do not make my friends by anything they enquirer all on their own and want to buy from me. I have never pushed anyone into a sale. You act like we are crazy for selling a product to someone but yet I don’t hear your complaint about telemarketers, pushy liar used car salesman or anyone else that works on commission. Sales in a job it puts food on the table no different then walking into best buy and buying something.. you come to the party knowing very well what it is going to be like we are upfront and honest. If you don’t want to buy or your not interested you don’t go or you can decline the invite. its not like we are going to push you into the corner and steal your wallet.
Dianna Trent
September 28th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
370I used to sell PL candles. It was fun & I learned a lot about candles, the company & how to sell. Actually, the product sells itself. Anyone who knows anything about candles can tell the difference between the way PL candles burn (not as hot!) & why the prices are what they are. I just don’t have time to do it anymore & I didn’t like the idea that I couldn’t make a weekly paycheck out of it.
As for getting together with friends for a PL show or Princess House Crystal or Longaberger Baskets, etc. PLEASE REALIZE YOU ARE THERE TO BUY! If you want to get together with friends for coffee that’s great! But that’s also ANOTHER OCCASSION.
Justin: Nice of you to attend with your wife? Guys don’t usually care about such get togethers unless it’s PAMPERED CHEF! (LOL)!
LelaK
September 29th, 2009 at 9:56 am
371I hate these parties. Partylite candles and the accessories are way over priced. You can get nicer stuff at Walmart. Serious! But if you like going to these parties then why should I care? Enjoy!
KYCandleGurl
September 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
372Justin I am a PartyLite consultant and have been for over a year. PartyLite is not for everyone. Hats off to you for speaking your mind but from the comments that I have seen you have promoted us pretty well! Thank you for that.
jane campbell
September 30th, 2009 at 8:42 am
373if you didn’t like these sort of things you shouldn’t go.Yes somethings are expensive but i can tell you they last longer than anything else i have bought and the scents are very nice.
If you went to the shops to buy a top, you pick one up and didn’t like it you wouldn’t buy it or go into that kind of shop.
Jennifer
September 30th, 2009 at 10:00 am
374I am a partylite consultant as well and I understand that partylite might not be for everyone but to have such animosity about it is just ridiculous. I’m just a single mom trying to raise some extra money while I go to school. If you don’t like parylite, or if you think it’s crap, then don’t buy it. It’s that simple.There are plenty of people who think that I sell quality product and do buy it, and to say that those people are poor unknowing idiots, or that I “played people as fools” to get them to order, is quite offensive, to myself and my customers.
Shera
October 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
375I am an Independent PartyLite Consultant and I find that your article is sad. I feel for you, I can’t believe that you would put an organization down and make fun of the people that attended the party and then decide to purchase the product. I don’t push my product on anyone, the product speaks for it’s self. As soon as someone hears PartyLite, they track me down to buy from me. Would they do that if they truly didn’t like the product. Nope, I don’t think so. I hope that next time you attend another party that you have a had a better day and attend open minded.
Anna Miller
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
376I have purchased Partylite candles for years, they do have some nice pieces. However, I will NEVER buy from them again. I feel like they pulled a total “bait and switch” scam on me. I had a party at my house invited a bunch of friends and sold $391 worth of their crap. When it was all totaled out I had $145 “Hostess Credit.” Well, what they fail to tell you is you cannot use that credit on any of the hostess offered items that they intice you with while they are wanting you to host a show. Look at the savings here a $180.00 item for only $45 they tell you. They don’t tell you those prices are cash only and exclude any credits you may have. So, basically your credits, that you worked so hard to earn (you must have at lest $250 in sales and book 2 shows)are only good towards their over-priced full price catalog items! I am furious. I had anticipated on purchasing the discounted hostess items as Christmas presents and now I have a Credit for crap I don’t even want. I can describe party lite in two words OVER PRICED!
syl
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
377I love the candles and the comapany, selling since 1993
Natalie
October 4th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
378Just fyi- I’m not a consultant but am very familiar with Partylite products and candles in general because my ex-boyfriend used to be the GM of a popular candle company (not to be mentioned). We had candles coming out of our ears and attended candle trade shows, saw candle product lines from all over… I was actually surprised to see that Partylite candles were of GREAT quality and actually affordable in comparison to that quality. Sure, you could buy a 3-5 dollar candle at Walmart that will stop smelling after a couple days, will barrel down the center with a pillar of wasted wax, or spill on your carpet with no chance of getting the wax out, but in this instance, you get what you pay for. If you want quality candles, you pay a little extra and I’m sorry that a gentleman such as you would not know prior to writing this blog the difference between quality candles, but coming from someone who does, you may want to do a bit of research before laying your opinions out to the world.
Sarah
October 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
379Justin – this blog is too funny. I am the one who goes to the party, eats the food, drinks the wine and buys NOTHING! My best friend knows that I refuse to spend the huge $$$ on something so frivolous and asks me to come anyway. Good friend. I like my house to smell like fresh air ;0)
rayne
October 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
380I am a Partylite consultant and I have purchased items from other direct selling companies such as Avon, Pampered Chef and Mary Kay for my friends and family. Of course purchases are made when my wallet allows and if I am unable to make a purchase I let whoever is selling it know. Direct selling doesn’t mean being pushy or making people feel they have to buy something. Unfortunately, there are those people that are passionate about their business and may come off that way. Everybody is trying to live the American dream, one part of that dream is to be their own boss. Direct selling companies allow you to do that and have fun with others in the process. If you are a skeptic from the beginning, dont go to the get together. I’m sure your family member would have preferred not to have someone there that really didnt want to be there or support their business.
Jo
October 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
381I have just hosted a party for my ex-friend who is now a consultant. Let me tell you, it was the worst experience in my whole life! I absolutely HATE candles!
How can you consultants live with yourselves ripping people off and pushing ppl to buy crap! You work for a company that is demoralising. The company expects you to sell your products to your friends at inflated prices and expect them to further get their friends to book further parties. I have just hosted a party and i did not get a thing.. i provided a venue for my consultant… which promised me all the gifts in the world and I did not even get a stupid tea light to say thanks. I couldnt sleep for days, i was sooo mad about the whole situation. I spent nearly £70 on food and drink for the occasion and didn’t even get a thanks. Also, the consultant had the nerve to have all the candles delivered to MY house for ME to deliver!!! With all commission given to HER! What a crap company partylite is! Avoid at all costs
McKenzie
October 8th, 2009 at 11:37 am
382To each their own.
Jessica
October 10th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
383I must disagree. I feel your post is a waste of time. I get invited to these various type parties all the time. If I like the product and intend to buy, I go. If I do not, do not have money, and to not want to hear the spiel, I simply decline the invitation. Key words here : simply decline.
Karen
October 10th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
384WOW! This is to everyone reading! I have had Party Lite parties for over 10 years. My consultant is a single mom of three. This is her way of living and providing for her family, since her piece of crap husband just up and left her and is NO where to be found and doesn’t pay child support! I have a party with her twice a year, one in late September and one in June! I have 23 friends and family members including both my in-laws, YES my father-n-law comes too! I have about $700-$800 parties in September, giving my consultant around $200 earnings for the hours she is here, not to mention the free products to me as a hostess! Now I’m married with children and like most people don’t make alot of money to just blow away, so I like these kind of things to make my house look and smell good! My home is bran new and needs to have some new decorations, with having a party like this gives us low income people ways to decorate our homes and help out women like my consultant be a full time mom and provider for her family! SO IF YOU don’t like these kind of things, don’t go but don’t sit here and bash a company or consultants for what you don’t like!
Amanda
October 13th, 2009 at 11:04 am
385I am not a Party Lite consultant but I am one for another direct sell company. I agree with you most consultants are pushy, but I am not. I only do this part time and enjoy the comission I make, but I don’t talk anyone into buying stuff at all, if they ask my opinion I tell them what I honestly think (good or bad) about the product. Most people that do it full time are that way because that’s their only income.
Tara
October 17th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
386I think the person who posted this opinion and any negatinve opinions after that obviously are just plain negative people!!! If you have such a problem with a company that is worldwide and does so well that you have to post this, makes you look like a very unhappy person. I think you just need to turn your life happier and understand that many people like this and do for different reasons! Tell me what makes you so darn smart about Partylite or any other direct selling companies? Another know it all in the world!!! Learn to be positive and not make the negative!!!!
miki
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
387i’m a firm believer that you get what you pay for or it’s not worth buying…i have a cabinet full of Partylite candles and use them every day…if you’re a candle lover like me, you want a candle that burns evenly without a hole in the middle, that ALWAYS burns ALL the way down, the honestly fills your house with a fabulous fragrance and that is worth every penny spent on it EVERYTIME…i’m not a seller, i’m a buyer…parties are well worth it to EVERYONE as long as you’re getting what you pay for…
peace…
Thora
October 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
388The area where I live party plans fizzled out years ago but there are a few distribtors of Partylite. I have no idea how they do.
I started making soy candles 5 years ago and the first thing I am asked at craft shows “Are these soy”? They sell themselves.After some sniffing I usually have a sale. The candles are long lasting,highly scented and no waste.I do have a couple wholesale accounts and those people love them.They tell me they look great in their showroom or shop.I ship fast and always send some goodies.
If anyone is interested my candles could be sold to coworkers, in showrooms stores or candle parties . I have one lady who buys and then resells at work.My wholesale is reasonable and people tell me the candles are the best.
I am not a big sales person but my candles sell themselves. If you or anyone else you know is interested please let me know. People can also makes some income by becoming a sale rep to stores in your area.A percentage is made for orders and future orders. We now have our candles in CT,NC and MO.
We private label to stores.
Thora
Nico
October 25th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
389Maybe you’re right. Instead, EVERY business should just have over paid CEO’s at the top, $7.00/hr stockers/cashiers at the bottom, and pay movie stars and athletes millions of dollars to promote the product through the TV… Wow, that’s a much better way to divide up the money from the sales.
You can tell you were a man that attended a party. Women were the original designers of the “home party” based sales. It operates on very simple strategy: 1. The person hosting the party LIKES the product. 2. That person will invite other people she thinks would enjoy the product. 3. Instead of wasting millions/billions of dollars on commercials, spokes people, etc, they spend their “advertising” dollars on the person helping to promote the product.
There’s no sucker sham going on here. It’s candles, idiot, get over it! It’s not like you were stuck buying Dr. Spock’s miracle cure for everything from ear aches, foot fungus, and cancer.
The only person to feel bad for here is your girl friend who ended up having to spend her night with “the big bad boyfriend who’s going to protect her from the scary sales woman.” You said it yourself, you went there believing someone was going to scam her out of her money. So instead of being able to hang out with her friends who like candles and things that smell good, she had to listen to you rant and rave about how candles aren’t worth anything.
News flash: there’s a lot of things people spend a lot of money on that I don’t agree with because it’s not important to ME, but that doesn’t make the entire company a sham.
Here’s what you did accomplish: I bet that’s the last time she ever asks you along to one of her friend’s parties.
TopKatz Events
October 28th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
390Hello hello, you guys have far too much time on your hands! Come on down and enjoy some of your free time with friendly banter and share your energies – some ideas on how to make money honeyz! Peace, love and light! (Preferably Partylite!) mwhahahaha, oh and HAPPY HALLOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!
Joanna
November 1st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
391Sucks for you that you are such a sheep that you can’t just say no thanks! If your buddy jumps off a bridge… please follow!
denise
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
392apparently you are one of those people who just like to mouth off for no apparent reason. Yes you can buy the stuff cheaper if you want lead in your home. The cheaper ones put lead in your candles hopefully you have good health insurance.
denise
November 5th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
393I agree with sofie…get together without the strings attached. These parties are kind of like throwing your own housewarming party or wedding shower…tacky.
Kate
November 6th, 2009 at 10:10 am
394I love how the PL people feel the need to “defend” themselves.
Stop being butt-hurt over the opinion of one blogger.
Sarah
November 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
395…Whoa.
I found this by accident because I wanted to know exactly what a “Partylite” was, but I just had to comment because it is utterly creepy that you got so many people replying to this post, defending Partylite’s honor, as well as various reeeally desperate sounding sales consultants. Weird as hell.
I have never been to one of these parties but I think I can spend quality time with family and friends without someone shoving cheap junk in my face trying to get my money. Moreover I think I can find better things to “celebrate”.
Cheers, Justin.
Cathleen
November 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
396If you don’t want to buy something, don’t go to the party.
Stephanie
November 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
397I love these candles. No ONE else compares to the fragrance and price of these candles. They also have great sales!
Melissa
November 16th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
398This is possibly the funniest commentary I’ve ever read in a set of blog comments.
I googled “PartyLite has no scent” and this showed up. Nice to know I’m not the only one that was disappointed with the tealights (a gift BTW).
Not even getting into the quagmire of direct sales, the price for a set of tealights is quite steep for the quality received. A quick glance at a PL catalog reveals that. I could easily do the following for the same amount of scent: purchase vial of pure scent oil. Place in electric warmer. Yummy smelling home. Amount invested for scent oil – $7. That $7 can be spread over 20-30 uses, each lasting between 6 and 8 hours. There you go. Economical and green solution. I’ve been doing it for some time now. If I’d like the ambience of tealights, IKEA sells huge packs of them for under $10.
I suppose the easiest way to avoid the conflict of sales pressure is to simply decline the invite. I used to get a lot of invites to Tastefully Simple through family members, but then showed several of them a website with Tastefully Simple DIY recipe mix “hacks” and heh…now no one wants to go to TS parties anymore.
There are only a few items worth their weight from direct selling companies and here they are:
Avon Skin so Soft oil
Avon deoderants
Mary Kay eye makeup remover
Pampered Chef garlic press
the P90X system
That’s it. If it’s an item that is unique or high quality and the DS company sells it at a reasonable price, why not? But unfortunately for the majority of DS items, that’s not the case. A more economic or high quality item is easily purchased elsewhere.
Erica
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 am
399Uh…Justin….Has it ever occured to you that you didn’t like the products because you are a GUY!!!??? I am a mother of three. I don’t sell, and I think that thier products are the BEST I have seen anywhere, including high end retail stores. I used to be a yankee candles fan but one wiff of these and I am a believer! My husband bartended for one of thier parties and he came home with the brocher and a couple FREE candles they gave to EVERYONE. I am in love and I will be attending a party ASAP because I want to become a consultant which is ABSOLUTELY free. They give you a $350 start up kit which has a ton of FREE products. Why are they able to give so many FREE things away??? Ah, I know! It is because they have the product to back it up! They know if they give things away, that people are going to buy the products because they LOVE them! They are great for wedding planning, parties for the hollidays, or for personal home warmth. They are classy and sheek. I can’t wait to get started!
Tammy H
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:28 am
400WOW..this is so funny. Why does everyone keep repeating what the others before them have already covered?! Basically, all we’ve ended up with is ~350 summaries of the previous posts. Even funnier is that I (and so many others) have taken the time to read them all!! LOL. We need to get lives :)
Paul
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
401I understand your comments but …
Every business is out there vying for your dollars. Even business owners are customers to somebody. The only difference is you are not at a store, you are at somebodies home.
I attended a PartyLite party years ago, with no intention of buying anything, and came away with a couple things that I, normally, wouldn’t have purchased but i’m very happy with my purchase. Yeah, you can get candles and holders everywhere, and for less, but …
Let me just say – one of my purchases was a lamp. It’s certainly possible that an identacle lamp is out there but I’ve never seen it and I’m glad I bought it, though I’ve never used it, because situations arise where light is needed and, when it isn’t needed, it doesn’t look out of place.
Instead of “Why is that candle sitting there?” – “Oh, the power was out last week” … you have … “Oh, that’s a cute lamp.” – “Yeah, it’s a candle” – “Really? That’s neat”
Betty
December 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
402Wow! Those are really some comments and opinions arent they? People, please stop gettin so worked up because of a few people’s opinions. You can’t change the way people think, say or feel. Remember, like our grandparents say, the only person we can control is ourselves.
I have been on both sides of the totem pole. I have been in customer service for over 16 years and I have partnered up with different direct selling companies in the past, all of various types and structures. Some could have been classified as “Pyramid Schemes”, and some not. All in all, it was my choice to make rather I decided to join, host or attend any and all events.
Now, if you have ever been in sales – period most are comission based. Some are salary with comission. Depending on the company and their structure. I have been involved in both.
All direct selling companies are doing is eliminating the middle man. They are cutting out the distributor, ie Walmart, Target, Marshalls, etc. and eliminating such overhead cost such as lights, storage etc., and numous employees plus the cost of maintaining a store for consumers to come into and shop. It allows the hostess to be able to earn an income based on cutting the middleman out of the equation.
We all know what the American way is…it was never meant to be a monopoly with limited choices so one could “make you” buy or sell just one thing without an opportunity to make your own choices on what you would like to spend your personal time and money on.
Overall people, it is our decision. Justin and a handfull of thers have their opionions as well. In whatever line of business you are in or have chosen to be in, this is the way it will be. If he feels that he was not comfortable in that situation, then by all means, that is his choice and he has every right to feel the way he does. He also has a right to voice his opinion. That is our God given right as Americans as long as we dont hurt or afflict pain on someone else.
It is a product line, just like Mary Kay or Avon. You will find Direct Marketing companies for just about everything out there that you can buy in a store. Just because it is sold in a store or by a hostess, sales person, what ever you would like to classify them as, the product line is what it is. Not everyone will like it, not everyone will find the value. Who cares? Not everyone is going to like the same things. That’s what makes the world go around. That is what makes the Direct Selling opportunitys so valuable. It is another choice, another option that we have. Another way to shop, spend our time and our money.
I enjoy shopping in a store for certain items, shopping online for some and attending parties for certain items as well. Parties can be very enjoyable if you open yourself up to just having a good time, enjoying people and your surroundings and on a postitive note, most of the time they feed you. You wont get the personal approach, the comfort of being in a home versus the loud, busy stores where the people just bump into you without even saying excuse me. Their is a difference any way you chalk it up. It just depends on what is important to each individual consumer. Some people like doing everything online without talking to anyone. That is okay too. Your choice. Your money. Your time.
I’ve always worked retail, sales of various different types. It is different in all aspects. I will say this, You do get what you pay for. Just like anything else. If you want cheap then that is what you will get. Go into Walmart and Target and get the cheapest and dont be surprised when it falls apart or doesnt work as well, the same as your life or car insurance. It is all the same.
I have been thinking about becoming a party lite distributor, a consultant, a hostess what ever you would like to call it. The prices can be expensive, but if it were a computer item or something that you were interested in that was your hobby how would you will feel about spending the money?
I apreciate all of everyone’s viewpoint, although, it will not hinder my decision to become a consultant.
Partylite is a great product that stands behind the quality of their merchandise. I can entertain my friends, family, coworkers, have a good time and get paid to do it while saving money on a product that I like and enjoy. It is a win win situation. Everyone has the opportunity to get something free and to save money by having a party.
Choose for yourself, with a product line that you like and enjoy and that stands behind the product line. It is not a pyramind or get rich scheme. . . just a way to earn additional or full time income. Whatever your personal situation requires. No promises were made that I would reach six figures from selling this product. It is up to me.
Now, quit complaining and have a great day!
Freemage
December 9th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
403Heh. Found this during a search for the products to get an idea of their prices.
To those attacking the original poster, you need to recognize the nature of the business you’re in. Yes, it’s possible to be a hostess or company rep and not be a pushy shill. But a LOT of folks get it wrong, and DO “drag people to parties” and use high-pressure sales-tactics.
And the big problem with MLM companies is that there’s very little recourse if there’s lousy service from a rep. If I go to a brick-and-mortar store, and the service people get in my face, I can complain to the manager about the high-pressure tactics. Enough complaints, and the employee will get talked to, and eventually fired. An unpleasant MLM rep, though, usually is able to keep doing it as long as they find it profitable–and unfortunately, those high-pressure tactics do frequently work.
So if you’re a consultant/rep/hostess, look in the mirror before every party, and swear to yourself you WON’T do anything you wouldn’t want done to you if you were a guest. If you don’t live up to that promise, someone will probably go home and make another post like Justin’s….
Kiarn
December 14th, 2009 at 12:45 am
404Quote from David ((Justin -
Don’t let the STEPFORDS get you down… Direct Sales
is a pyramid scheme, relying on peer pressure to
make the select few rich…
Kind of like our entire American economy in the
last 20 years…
PartyLite is a nice way of putting a pleasant, semi-social face on consumerism.
Please realize, “consumerism” is NOT meant as a compliment :)
And by the way, their candles suck. ;>))
I kinda think you have no idea what you are talking about. To earn more money in PartyLite you have to work harder.. It is the same in any business which means if you get to the top of the pyramid you’ve worked hard to get there and deserve the earnings! Pyramid scheme is a notion with negative conotations. Considering almost all companies have less people at the top than the bottom(including the government) that would make every business a pyramid scheme!
And Justin I do believe you are one of the people in the world who chose to see the negative side of everything. And yes it is a choice. Partyplan companies are set up for only positive reasons and if you believe otherwise than I imagine you don’t have alot positive in your life at all. Try looking at everything from a positive point of veiw and you may find your life changes dramatically.
Kenn
December 16th, 2009 at 9:52 am
405I use to sell PartyLite, it does have good products but as a past-consultant, you had to place a $150 order every two months or you were inactive. Your customers could not just order, say one candle-pack from you cause then you had to place a $150 order. And I will agree, that there is a lot of the products that are enormously over-priced. I see products in Kirklands that are like $10-$20 and Partylite’s is $100. I have been in Direct Sales (from a cosmetic company) for over 16 yrs. I rec. 50% minus my expenses. Partylite’s is 25%. Now you can fudge with the order and receive hostess gifts and that in the ordering system and make a little bit more but that is a hassle, I like that everyone in the cosmetic co. gets the same 50% discount and it is hassle free and cut and dry. I also understand that there is overhead for the parent company but I believe they lose out of sales when they are selling something that you can buy and carry home the same day for a fraction of the cost and have the same look and may even be made buy the same company…
These companies are great for the consultants that make them work and you should never be pressured into buying especially with friends but you have to think…would they do the same for me.
Thanks for your time,
Kenn
Partylite and most of their consultants suck ass
December 18th, 2009 at 1:19 am
406First of all – this is Justin’s blog. He can write about whatever the hell he wants to. If you don’t like it, hit the back button and take a walk.
Secondly – I can’t believe some of you nutjob consultants. Ever heard of a life? Apparently not if every breath you take is about a candle company. Most of you seem overly defensive. Hmm, wonder why. Could it be because the people criticizing the products, parties, and consultants are right on the mark and it upsets you to no end knowing people feel this way?
I think so.
The candles are mediocre at best. They aren’t anything magical or special. They ARE, however, exceptionally overpriced.
And to echo what quite a few people have said – NOT everyone enjoys going to these stupid parties. It’s not a “girl” thing. I’m a girl, I have girls in my family, and girls in my circle of friends and none of us can be bothered with this crap. Most people who go to these go because they feel obligated or they want free food and samples where that is applicable.
I’m sure some of you freaks are going to go off and blow your top. “Why are you so angry?” and “What is your problem”? I’m angry because this guy has gotten slammed and threatened by you crazy people. My problem is most of you don’t respect his opinion or ANY opinion other than your own.
GROW THE HELL UP.
PS) This only applies to 99% of you. There appear to be a few consultants that seem like good people who respect the opinions of others and wouldn’t resort to insults and threats. The 99% of you imbeciles would benefit greatly by taking a cue from them.
Loretta
December 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
407went to gold canyon candle presentation with my little sister she purchased 12 candles opened up three of them in differnet parts of our house. the violent headaches she received the nausea and vomiting after wards. were these candles made of petroleum?
did you all know that Petroleum is very very dangerous candles you can ever have? and that they are really not good for you to view or smell…. the best candles are from Brambleberry!! they make the best candles no where else.
I tried to get our money back they refused… My sister is an attorney she is filing a law suit on them, they will not return any money to her. they said poloicy not to return money just product. too bad they are going to court and so is her rep.
chrissy
December 29th, 2009 at 6:46 am
408Hey Justin, are you sure, that your nose still does his work correctly?
Amanda
January 1st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
409Honestly months of discussion over something as simple as partylite. When you go to walmart do you get gifts? No of course not. Partylite is a business of course people make money on it. Do you not think that Walmart/Sears/ect make money off of what you buy? That is the sorriest thing i have ever heard. And Justin for your original comments. Yes some consultants pressure yes it can be a pain in the ass. If you don’t like the product, don’t go to the shows. It is that simple. I am a consultant. I don’t pressure any of my customers. And I don’t make money off of it. I give away every penny I make in free gifts for my hostesses and guests. I am not in this to make money. I am in this to have fun and hang out with my friends. Find a consultant that is in it for the joy and not for the money. Your experience will be much better. And as I stated earlier if you don’t like it don’t go.
Rachael
January 3rd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
410I hate these parties too, and I did a Google search to find out if anybody else had an effective strategy for turning down invitations to parties such as these without offending the host or hostess.
This was so much better: Not only did I get to read your actual experience with PartyLite, but I also got to read 300+ responses from people who make money with PartyLite telling you you’re wrong.
Way to go, Candle Monkeys.
Karie
January 3rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
411I got a Partylite candle, once, and only once, because that person obvious didn’t know like everyone else I know does, that I won’t burn anything but Gold Canyon. Partylite candles are absolutely no comparison when it comes to Gold Canyon candles. Period.
Karie
January 3rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm
412Let me rephrase – nothing out there compares to Gold Canyon candles – nothing.
Joanne
January 9th, 2010 at 6:04 am
413Justin, a couple of years later and your comments are still getting somebody’s attention. What better publicity can a company get?
I believe you are totally against direct sales, period. It really has nothing to do with Partylite, it could have been any other company and your feelings would have been the same. When you feel this way please stay home. Please don’t allow anyone (including your girlfriend) to suck you into going anywhere because it is not worth your frustration, but much more important, it is not worth it for the people present to have to endure your sour-puss presence.
To you Justin, and anyone who has similar views to direct sales, please STAY HOME.
April
January 10th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
414I just want to say this has been entertaining. I was sitting here on a Sunday afternoon contemplating what to serve at my party this Thursday evening. My invitations have been sent out and my house in order, I am anxious for my guests. We smell all sorts of candles. When I first went to a party, I informed the consultant that I get headaches from strong scents, hence the reason I do not go into certain stores to buy candles. She was helpful in helping me chose light scents that didn’t make my head spin. I have dogs and cats in my home and need some type of scent other than dog and cat. I loved the scents that were recommended for me. When I relax, I am able to burn my candles and just enjoy the aroma in my home (no headache from strong scents). I enjoy the cleanliness of the candles and the easy cleanup. I spilt the wax on my carpet thinking there was permanent damage, was naturally upset. Called my consultant, she told me to simply find an old throw away towel, place it over the spill, place an iron on top and iron the towel. The wax came right out. The towel smelled so nice, I put it at the bottom of my trash can to help with odors, and the scent, when I take the plastic lining, is still there. I did that 3 months ago. Thank you PartyLite candles, the hostess who invited me, and the consultant who I call on anytime I need help with my PartyLite candles. Now can other stores do this for you? Get your candles cheaper if you want, I’d rather spend a bit more with the outstanding customer service I have gotten from PartyLite.
Some dude in Montucky
January 14th, 2010 at 10:46 am
415i find people’s obsession with scenting their surroundings quite amusing. what’s wrong with just keeping a clean house?
i stumbled on this post by googling “Gold Canyon Candles” plus “stupid consumer shit”. I think that says it all.
linnie vanwinkle
January 24th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
416I agree! This is exactly how it works. I know because I’ve had several parties. My parties however were not to benefit from my friends. I just love the products and everytime I have a party, I’m the one who spends at least $500 dollars, while the rest maybe total $100+. I also go out of my way to provide refreshments, I mainly do it to get everyone together to have fun, and yes I suppose it would be cheaper buying it directly.
Angela
January 25th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
417I’ve got to say I’ve oogled your designs for awhile and read your blog from time to time and I can’t believe they are still harping on their precious candles.
I’m a Navy brat. My mom was a Tupperware, Princess House, Christmas Around the World, Mary Kay and Amway rep over a 20 year period. We went to at least three times that many parties. The Avon lady still makes me shudder. She didn’t stick with any of them, because WOM marketing is exhausting and often futile in a saturated market. And most MLM companies do not limit the number of reps in an area.
I am not opposed to the MLM marketing per se, but it is more of a necessary evil like Walmart than a joy and useful platform for moving goods to consumers. And you can give me all the baloney about “value” and “quality” you want. Charging $50 for a lantern holder is just insane. Cost is no way over $5. I’ve cast my own metal. I make my own soy candles, melts and such at home with organic oils. No way are PL candles “better” than that. And anyway anything burning makes some amount of soot, whether its visible or not. Wicks don’t magically disappear.
So preach on Justin, lol.
Angela
January 29th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
418Dude you are a total SUCKER!!!!!!!!
It’s not the consultant or the hostess that’s the problem it’s people like you who can’t say no!!!!
Grow up, stop blaming people for your spending problems.
I just hosted a party last night and it went great, ladies had fun, ate yummy food, socialized and shopped. ONLY buying what they truley wanted. Those who couldn’t or didn’t buy still had a great time and I certainly didn’t think any less of them.
Mike
February 1st, 2010 at 4:19 pm
419Entertaining as this is, do any of you realize that after this amount of time, you are not saying anything not already said?
Even with my above statement, I still feel the need to add my two cents.
I’ve been in several direct sales orgs (Amway, Melalueca, etc.) I used to be a total introvert, so I failed to ‘make my fortune’. My wife is currently a Partylite consultant, so I will admit to some bias toward that company.
As a whole, I like direct sales. The concept works, and be very profitable. The ’sales person’ (please don’t bother denying it) can be as meek or aggressive as they choose and still have an opportunity.
I have, unfortunately, met agents just like Justin did, and met others that thought as Justin does (still?). (Along with the freedom to be aggressive comes the freedom to be totally stupid. Amroids as we used to call them in Amway.) If the information I received looked the slightist bit interesting, I looked it up my self.
There are d/s companies out there that are even worse than Justin seems to think P/L is. I don’t happen to think P/L is that bad.
(I may have overlooked it, Justin, but did you contact corporate? Did they provide the same dis-satisfying responses? Did you take any of the nicer ladies up on their offer to provide free product? Just like any product, some batches just aren’t as good as others.)
I heard a diddy one time that I think applies to 90% of the posts here.
‘He who is convinced, against his will, is of the same opinion still.’
Feel free to continue to entertain, but nothing you SAY is going to change Justin’s mind. Only his personal experience will.
Paul
February 4th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
420If these candles are so good then why can’t i buy them in a store like any other normal product?? What education do you need to give customers on candles…last time I heard it was light it and then blow it out when you are finished with it or if it is your birthday. Just a scam to put people under pressure and get them to buy a crappy candle that they have no real need for. Go out and get a proper job
Paul
February 4th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
421Another thing. Why is it when I search online I cannot find prices for the candles fro Partylite?? Are they too embarrassed to put them online in case people realise before they are too drunk that they are way to expensive
deidra
February 19th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
422I don’t understand why people get so upset that THEY went to a party, THEY bought something, THEY walk away upset because they FEEL as though they were taken advantage of. For myself, Myfirst show many years ago, I didn’t feel taken advantage of because I chose to go to the show. I had fun, just didn’t have any money :) and in the process, years later I still buy PartyL candles. I won’t buy any other brand. Even when I did buy candles from Walmart or Target, (well before PartyL) I wasn’t satisfied with NOT knowing the history of the candles. How they were made, where they were made and so forth. With PartyL I know they give you all of the information on the candle. they hold nothing back. I like that! I really do! Also, to the other person who said that she doesn’t like the fact that the consultants are making money off of her…this is just silly. Everything you buy, someone is making money off of you. I think, for the most part, people just don’t want to see others excel in something because they themselves are to afraid to step out of the box. These d/s companies have individuals who have decided to step out of the box. I applaud all of those wh ohave decided to step out of the box into something that is not the norm. (watch the BEE movie) and to anyone who has a direct selling business… i support you one hundred percent!!! keep on doing what you do!
Dolly
February 21st, 2010 at 8:36 am
423I used to love partylite candles for the fact that they totally burned completely away. I love to go to the home parties to socialize with my friends and make new ones It really gives me a reason to get out of the house. However I will never go to another partylite candle party again! I purchased tealight candles and nearly BURNED DOWN MY HOUSE! The plastic casing around the tealight caught on fire and I was unable to just blow out the fire. I had to extinquish it. I think they are dangerous. Seriously how about putting metal around the candle that is not flamable!
Maria
February 22nd, 2010 at 2:50 am
424It sounds to me that you were one of the ones in highschool that wanted so badly to fit in. And because he cant he becomes a hater, and judges the cover before reading the book.
First and foremost be a MAN, what kind of MAN spends his time nerding and bloging about a PartyLite show he went to… i have to laugh. That is pretty much all i got out of this entire post… you have pretty much secured yourself is forever bachelor’ism.
Good luck in life.
Jes
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
425All I can say is Partylite candles and products are wonderful. Take a chill pill…Light some candles and relax.
Ann
March 2nd, 2010 at 5:46 am
426I like these parties, as I can catch up with friends, party, have a laugh and most importantly, do all my birthday, mothers day, fathers day or christmas shopping without having to go to busy shopping malls and waste time and petrol. Now thats a bonus :)
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